I Pity future of Industry

[tbs1983]

Need a good rant.

Got a new apprentice started with us and he shows little or no interest in the job, has his hands in his pockets all day or on mobile phone, sleeps through dinner, and only does anything after being asked (never proactive in finding tasks).
The last one we had was just as bad.

Is it just me ( I'm only 31) or do the youngsters these days not seem to care about learning the trade and showing enthusiasm and a good impression.

I for one can't be doing with it anymore, i'd rather do the job myself than try and help someone who doesn't care.

Rant over.

 

[SuperPeaks]

I feel your pain, We had an 18 Year old who's only interests were Texting his mates, smoking cigarettes and phoning in sick !

Complete waste of time and effort on our part as he never went to college when supposed to.

I remember being that age of course I do (17 years ago now) but was never this rude and disrespectful.

Social Media has a lot to answer for, !

Good luck

 

[cliffed]

Need a good rant.

Got a new apprentice started with us and he shows little or no interest in the job, has his hands in his pockets all day or on mobile phone, sleeps through dinner, and only does anything after being asked (never proactive in finding tasks).
The last one we had was just as bad.

Is it just me ( I'm only 31) or do the youngsters these days not seem to care about learning the trade and showing enthusiasm and a good impression.

I for one can't be doing with it anymore, i'd rather do the job myself than try and help someone who doesn't care.

Rant over.

Spot on agree with everything you say,it's not just me then ,so relieved

 

[Meggerman]

That is a shame. Don't keep him on if he is useless then get rid, give another one a go.

 

[tbs1983]

not my say as I work for company. What I started doing with last apprentice was going to depot early and loading up and disappearing before he arrived so he had to go with someone else !!! harsh but I was up to here with him in the end !!!

 

[WaterSparky]

I feel you guys have just picked some bad ones! We arent all that bad!!

 

[connordines]

There are some good ones!

I am a 20 year old apprentice 4th year!

interested in learning the job! only use my phone on dinner time all the other time its on silent!

 

[dazza1981]

Had a similar young lad at my last place, thought he knew it all and would not be told how things are done. Constantly texting and fell asleep at every opportunity he got.
Always blamed everyone else for his f##k ups. Then he had the cheek to say he wasnt payed enough. I stuck him for about 10 weeks before i finally said i could not work with him. He lasted 7 months before they had to let him go and he was given every opportunity going. SHAME!!

 

[tbs1983]

Glad to hear there are some good ones about. keep at it guys. Ask the old farts as many questions as u can. I still do regularly. You will be glad you did one day. Good luck with your careers

 

[MDJ]

I don't think you need me to give my views lol

 

[Meggerman]

There are some good ones!

I am a 20 year old apprentice 4th year!

interested in learning the job! only use my phone on dinner time all the other time its on silent!

I agree, there is definatly good ones. That is more to the point why someone who is not interested should not be retained. Also there are some crap companies and some crap electricians to learn (or not) from, so it cuts both ways!!

 

[Pete999]

Threaten him with the bullet on second thoughts they are so not bothered I doubt if that would have any effect.

 

[Johnuk]

just get ride of him, get someone who lost out on it because of this lazy thing,

 

[Pete999]

Yeah just ditch the waster

 

[Knobhead]

Rule one, the phone stays in your locker or tool chest.

Lunch break, “we’ll go through your log book (portfolio).” I didn’t have to give up my break but I thought it worthwhile. It’s what the tradesmen did with me.

How much effort are you putting in to it?

 

[Plonker 3]

Its not just the future though is it?

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...l-forum/88254-signs-house-needing-rewire.html
http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...8-testing-new-circuits-garage-conversion.html
http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/electrical-forum-general-electrical-forum/88252-lift-supply.html

And they are just from today.

 

[MDJ]

Its not just the future though is it?

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...l-forum/88254-signs-house-needing-rewire.html
http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...8-testing-new-circuits-garage-conversion.html
http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/electrical-forum-general-electrical-forum/88252-lift-supply.html

And they are just from today.

Well Done M8, Great post, unfortunately theres a few here who won't get it mg_smile:

 

[Pete999]

I get it honest

 

[Deleted member 72666]

To the OP, I think the best thing you can do is to tell the lado what you actually think about his attitude to work, better still show him this thread and let the replies be the reality check he needs. I think they just assume that one day they wake up and become an electrician without putting any meaningful effort in after all most have been handed everything they have on a plate.

 

[GMES]

The falling asleep bit would soon be cured with the hot teaspoon on the back of the neck ( oh the memories ) good old days and it worked as well. but now with the cotton wool world we live in you just cant get away with it.

 

[dazza1981]

The falling asleep bit would soon be cured with the hot teaspoon on the back of the neck ( oh the memories ) good old days and it worked as well. but now with the cotton wool world we live in you just cant get away with it.

Ha ha a hot tea spoon or a megger across the ear lobes

 

[Geordie Spark]

Need a good rant.

Got a new apprentice started with us and he shows little or no interest in the job, has his hands in his pockets all day or on mobile phone, sleeps through dinner, and only does anything after being asked (never proactive in finding tasks).
The last one we had was just as bad.

Is it just me ( I'm only 31) or do the youngsters these days not seem to care about learning the trade and showing enthusiasm and a good impression.

I for one can't be doing with it anymore, i'd rather do the job myself than try and help someone who doesn't care.

Rant over.

Sadly you're right.

If I were still working and took an apprentice on it would be understood that his pockets would be sewn up and his phone locked in my desk drawer during working hours.

 

[trev]

Show him this thread and tell him to get his act together, also make sure he knows that if he doesn't he'll be out on his ear.

 

[Knobhead]

I’ll still ask the question, “how much effort is the OP putting in to the arrangement?”

 

[Meggerman]

I’ll still ask the question, “how much effort is the OP putting in to the arrangement?”

That's what I was getting at earlier, not all sparks are good teachers

 

[cotty]

The falling asleep bit would soon be cured with the hot teaspoon on the back of the neck ( oh the memories ) good old days and it worked as well. but now with the cotton wool world we live in you just cant get away with it.

Or a jolt with the Megger!!

 

[2na]

I have an apprentice at the moment, he is brilliant. From day one I told him, if you I see you on your phone I'm going to smash it, if you feel sick come to work and I'll tell you if your sick, NO SMOKING! People don't want to pay for you to smoke! And if your late once you go home for the week and don't get paid. Do any 3 of these things and you can go and work for someone else. He's in his second year, 23 years old and he can already do 3 phase boards beautifully, has no problem planning jobs including ordering parts! And is also a really nice bloke.

I have a feeling he will run a brilliant company one day, and hopefully it will be mine while I have my feet up!

 

[lockhes]

I have an apprentice at the moment, he is brilliant. From day one I told him, if you I see you on your phone I'm going to smash it, if you feel sick come to work and I'll tell you if your sick, NO SMOKING! People don't want to pay for you to smoke! And if your late once you go home for the week and don't get paid. Do any 3 of these things and you can go and work for someone else. He's in his second year, 23 years old and he can already do 3 phase boards beautifully, has no problem planning jobs including ordering parts! And is also a really nice bloke.

I have a feeling he will run a brilliant company one day, and hopefully it will be mine while I have my feet up!

Haha thats the the best way to treat them

 

[R G]

Early last year my neighbour tells me his son is looking for work experience and is at college and wants an apprenticeship , I told him to tell his son to come and see me , I spoke to the lad and made arrangements for him to join me on a rewire , he did 2 days and then he had 2 days at college , the following week the same , I told him all the final testing and certs will be done next week but would be on a day that he is at college , he was disappointed he would miss it , so I delayed it and sent him a message , I got a text message early in the morning saying he is sick and can't make it , He lives 5 doors from me , I popped round to see him , his father said he's not here , he's round his girlfriends and went to a party last night ,
WTF , I lost 2 days for him , all for him to give me crap , ,,,,

 

[cotty]

I have an apprentice at the moment, he is brilliant. From day one I told him, if you I see you on your phone I'm going to smash it, if you feel sick come to work and I'll tell you if your sick, NO SMOKING! People don't want to pay for you to smoke! And if your late once you go home for the week and don't get paid. Do any 3 of these things and you can go and work for someone else. He's in his second year, 23 years old and he can already do 3 phase boards beautifully, has no problem planning jobs including ordering parts! And is also a really nice bloke.

I have a feeling he will run a brilliant company one day, and hopefully it will be mine while I have my feet up!

I bet you are a joy to work with!!

 

[Deleted member 72666]

Early last year my neighbour tells me his son is looking for work experience and is at college and wants an apprenticeship , I told him to tell his son to come and see me , I spoke to the lad and made arrangements for him to join me on a rewire , he did 2 days and then he had 2 days at college , the following week the same , I told him all the final testing and certs will be done next week but would be on a day that he is at college , he was disappointed he would miss it , so I delayed it and sent him a message , I got a text message early in the morning saying he is sick and can't make it , He lives 5 doors from me , I popped round to see him , his father said he's not here , he's round his girlfriends and went to a party last night ,
WTF , I lost 2 days for him , all for him to give me crap , ,,,,

That's a bummer!
Btw where are you sat in your avatar? It looks very much like the promenade in Larnaca.

 

[telectrix]

treat 'em mean. keep 'em keen....... oh no, that's women.

 

[Deleted member 72666]

I bet you are a joy to work with!!

You've got to establish the rules at the outset then hopefully everything falls into place.

 

[R G]

That's a bummer!
Btw where are you sat in your avatar? It looks very much like the promenade in Larnaca.

That was in Cannes , about 6 years ago on my 50th mate , BTW Im on the right lol

 

[Deleted member 72666]

That was in Cannes , about 6 years ago on my 50th mate , BTW Im on the right lol

Who's the redhead?

 

[R G]

Thats not the misses , just another old dog ..

 

[guest119]

Tallow on the scroat, not that Trefol green stuff.

Boydy

 

[2na]

Cotty I'm not there to be a friend, I'm trying to teach him. Out of work we are good friends, but at work, it's business as usual.

Another thing I do is that if a tool is lost, they replace it. After the first week, they never put floorboards down without getting the torch out to have a look......

 

[ferg]

To be absolutely honest I was a terrible apprentice.
Cheeky, knew everything, terrible timekeeping but never used my phone at work......... mainly because there were no mobiles then

I think my only saving grace was that I wasn't lazy.

I went through several mentors till I eventually ( and very, very fortunately for me.) got one with the patience to work out how to get the best out of me and get me to realise I was acting like a fanny.

If I had my time over I would do it differently

Youth is completely wasted on the young. BUT they are just kids really and being a mentor is much more than just telling someone what to do.

 

[trev]

Ferg to some extent you're right but when I had apprentices I was there to teach them 1) How to do the job and 2) How to go on at work