Advice wanted - unhappy with rewire

[Midwest]

The tug test will make sure it doesn’t come out, is what I was saying

What changes things, is after the tug test you push the accessory into the back box, putting pressure on previously tightened terminals. Nothing is certain IMO.

 

[johnduffell]

Yeah tug test won't find every problematic termination, but it finds enough to be worth the 10 seconds it takes to do it, especially with multiple conductors into one terminal. It's no substitute for good workmanship, inspection and testing just complementary.

 

[telectrix]

That is just being gullible to think all think it will be perfect. Bit like being sure the fridge light is off, when you shut the door.

i'll tell you the answer as soon as i work out how to open the fridge door from inside. brrrrrr. it's cold in here.

 

[rapparee]

Also, the cables should have had capping over them before the plasterer does his bit, to stop the plaster rotting the cables. This is a job for the electrician and is part of the first fix

The cables should be routed through 20mm round conduit.

Am I right @Risteard ?

 

[telectrix]

doing that over here would price us out of 90% of domestic jobs.

 

[Risteard]

The cables should be routed through 20mm round conduit.

Am I right @Risteard ?

It's certainly considered good practice here (or indeed standard practice). Across the border it's actually mandatory to protect cables against plaster e.g. with conduit (although as we all know the chemical composition of plaster nowadays isn't actually likely to cause any issue).

 

[Nigel]

Questions I would like answered?

1. How much was the quote?

2. What checks did you make prior to engaging with this particular contractor?

 

[spark 68]

Why Essex ? what has that got to do with the thread ?
People have been charged top whack and still had a sh** job done.

 

[telectrix]

Why Essex ? what has that got to do with the thread ?
People have been charged top whack and still had a sh** job done.

essex post is relevant. if the quote was super low, no wonder thety done in 2 days. if high, then poss rip off.

 

[spark 68]

I disagree Tel,
It could have been done at short notice, plus I don't agree with slagging another spark off without giving a right of reply, unless it was a total abortion from the beginning, you should know me by now, price does not come into at this moment in time

 

[telectrix]

true.we don't have the whole story.

 

[Spoon]

Questions I would like answered?

1. How much was the quote?

2. What checks did you make prior to engaging with this particular contractor?

I'm with @spark 68 on this......

1. What do you expect the general public to know about pricing of jobs...
If one quote was 1 grand and another was 3 grand then you would be looking at the first one, as the second one may be trying to rip you off..

2. Again, what checks do you expect the general public to know to do...
Usually get a friend to suggest someone is good is good enough for most.

 

[Nigel]

I would suggest that most people that do not know what they are talking about would ask for at least three quotations for work. How could anyone make an informed decision without a comparative quote? If this particular contractor was £1500 when the other two were around £3k and the customwr chose to go with the £1500 option I think that is relevant. I am not saying it is ok to rip someone off but I am saying that expectations of work quality will be linked to the price paid.

Again I would also be asking if they are insured, competent, do they hold any qualifications etc. I would not want my boiler change being carried out by anyone not able or not willing to provide this most basic of information.

Furthermore it says a lot about a customer if price was the only thing looked at when looking at these things.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

 

[spark 68]

Not always, the cheapest quote may come from someone who is good but may be just starting out and/or small and will do an exemplary job, othoh you could get someone whom is basically taking p**s and charging high and sending shall we say "operatives" out and charging premium rates.
Seen it done.

 

[Toneyz]

i'll tell you the answer as soon as i work out how to open the fridge door from inside. brrrrrr. it's cold in here.

One constellation is I bet you have some cold beers in there.

 

[KEV 1 N]

Well it’s debatable whether the loose line conductor would have shown up on testing.
I used the term Proper Testing for the benefit of the OP who may not understand terminology like Initial Verifacation which if carried out properly (Proper Testing) WOULD have found that poor termination.

 

[spark 68]

You got a disagree because testing would have not likely shown this up, proper inspection might have.

 

[Spoon]

If this particular contractor was £1500 when the other two were around £3k and the customwr chose to go with the £1500 option I think that is relevant. I am not saying it is ok to rip someone off but I am saying that expectations of work quality will be linked to the price paid.

When I was having my ceilings plastered over I got 4 quotes. I went with the second cheapest. They did a great job.

Again I would also be asking if they are insured, competent, do they hold any qualifications etc. I would not want my boiler change being carried out by anyone not able or not willing to provide this most basic of information.

Why would the general public be asking for insurance, competence & quals.... They expect that the electrician will have all the relevant stuff to do the job, otherwise they would not be doing it.
Yes, this is not always the case in real life, but it's what they would expect.

 

[Nigel]

When I was having my ceilings plastered over I got 4 quotes. I went with the second cheapest. They did a great job.



Why would the general public be asking for insurance, competence & quals.... They expect that the electrician will have all the relevant stuff to do the job, otherwise they would not be doing it.
Yes, this is not always the case in real life, but it's what they would expect.

Because they should actually give a damn about people doing work in their house that could, if not done correctly kill someone.

 

[Andy78]

When I was having my ceilings plastered over I got 4 quotes. I went with the second cheapest. They did a great job.

I do similar with plasterers but go for the second least inebriated. There's a fine balance of special brew intake required to achieve a perfect finish.