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justnod
Does a cooker need to have a separate isolating switch of some sort by law? Or can it be wired direct to the consumer unit?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Octopus
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Octopus
A cooker circuit requires "local" isolation within a couple of meters of the appliance, and the isolator needs to be readily accessible.
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Hence why I quote with references to the BRB, have to admit though his terminology led me to think that he was in the industry.
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Paul.M
I was thinking along the lines of its a quick Saturday morning job for a part p sparky and he doesn't want to take off the new tiles and chase out making more work for himself. Going from the cu to cooker does make it sound like a sparky but why would they try not to put in a switch?
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There's plenty of stroke pullers in this game. Along time ago when I advertised and was getting local work , some bloke had me round his house 3 times about jobs etc. Every time I told him how I was going to do something he would tell me it was to late to give me each little job because his son used to get home from work and do it and each time he had little chance of stopping him.
In the end I blew, and he was lucky I never went round there, I just told me to **** off and don't phone me again.
There's plenty of stroke pullers in this game. Along time ago when I advertised and was getting local work , some bloke had me round his house 3 times about jobs etc. Every time I told him how I was going to do something he would tell me it was to late to give me each little job because his son used to get home from work and do it and each time he had little chance of stopping him.
In the end I blew, and he was lucky I never went round there, I just told me to **** off and don't phone me again.
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malcolmsanford
Blags mate ................how dare you 
I've never worked on a 2nd fix contract to just fit the appliances and when you went to connect the cables the first fix lads just pushed about 4 feet of cable into the conduit at each point
It will always cost us mate to be honest. The majority of DIY'er have the mentality still of it must be ok it works. I suspect like me mate you have seen the 9kw shower wired in 2.5mm and was told it's been like that ever since it's been installed 3 years ago, and in all honesty the cable as been perfect.
As competant person Tony you have to make sure the job is correct, it's safe , and it complies, others ie DIY'ers Cowboys and the local builder, don't and todays cables, appliances and such are so well made mate there are very few incidents that occur.
I don't think there will ever be an answer to your question mate. As long as sheds, and even wholesalers sell to all asundry you will get this, after all DIY is a massive market. I suppose it is everymans right to work on his house and do what he feels is safe and secure.
The Part P just makes a mockery out of decent electricians trying to make a living, on a very uneven playing field.
I've never worked on a 2nd fix contract to just fit the appliances and when you went to connect the cables the first fix lads just pushed about 4 feet of cable into the conduit at each point
It will always cost us mate to be honest. The majority of DIY'er have the mentality still of it must be ok it works. I suspect like me mate you have seen the 9kw shower wired in 2.5mm and was told it's been like that ever since it's been installed 3 years ago, and in all honesty the cable as been perfect.
As competant person Tony you have to make sure the job is correct, it's safe , and it complies, others ie DIY'ers Cowboys and the local builder, don't and todays cables, appliances and such are so well made mate there are very few incidents that occur.
I don't think there will ever be an answer to your question mate. As long as sheds, and even wholesalers sell to all asundry you will get this, after all DIY is a massive market. I suppose it is everymans right to work on his house and do what he feels is safe and secure.
The Part P just makes a mockery out of decent electricians trying to make a living, on a very uneven playing field.
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we are being ripped off. our customers , indirectly, are being ripped of. and so are all taxpayers, paying the cost of keeping all the suits in gold plated pensions.
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Paul.M
That's what the op is doing now, jumped in his car and going to a shed to buy a cooker switch.
Went to my local shed to get some tile adhesive and like you do I had a walk down the electrics section. Man and wife looking at duel rcd c/u??? Didn't look like they could wire a plug never mind a cu so I asked them. "my mate knows how to do it, used to be an apprentice years ago". Apart from the obvious making money from selling all sorts if electrical equipment, how do they get away with it? I can't buy industrial strength solvent due to h&s, why can anyone go to a DIY shed and buy all they need to rewire a house?
Went to my local shed to get some tile adhesive and like you do I had a walk down the electrics section. Man and wife looking at duel rcd c/u??? Didn't look like they could wire a plug never mind a cu so I asked them. "my mate knows how to do it, used to be an apprentice years ago". Apart from the obvious making money from selling all sorts if electrical equipment, how do they get away with it? I can't buy industrial strength solvent due to h&s, why can anyone go to a DIY shed and buy all they need to rewire a house?
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malcolmsanford
I still genuinely believe we should be licenced. Though I read somewhere that the Aus government are looking to abolish this method but I may be wrong there.
It amazed me that unless your a sole trader, it is the company that is part P registered. So you can have as in the situation of Tonys where he is a QS signing off work, and have 100 monkey's doing all the install work. It is crazy.
My wife is an RGN, she is the one registered, not the hospital or in her case the nursing home she runs, she is the registered nurse, I think she pays about 75 pound for 3 years to the nursing and midwifery council and this body authenticates any upgrades she does or any modules she need to complete to retain her registration.
Why can't we have this, I'd gladly pay 75 pounds a year to a body that will allow me with my qualifications to work on electrical systems and give me a licence to do so.
It amazed me that unless your a sole trader, it is the company that is part P registered. So you can have as in the situation of Tonys where he is a QS signing off work, and have 100 monkey's doing all the install work. It is crazy.
My wife is an RGN, she is the one registered, not the hospital or in her case the nursing home she runs, she is the registered nurse, I think she pays about 75 pound for 3 years to the nursing and midwifery council and this body authenticates any upgrades she does or any modules she need to complete to retain her registration.
Why can't we have this, I'd gladly pay 75 pounds a year to a body that will allow me with my qualifications to work on electrical systems and give me a licence to do so.
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