PATting a dishwasher

[mark641]

This has no manufacturer's name, no rating plate and no CE mark.
Please does this mean I must fail it, although the PAT meter says
"pass"? I have inspected the flex & plug (sealed, 13 amp fuse, grip
is sound).

 

[snowhead]

Is the appliance safe for continued use?
It would appear it probably is, if your meter says Pass.

Best of luck convincing the owner they have to buy a new one because a label is missing.

 

[Andy5678]

The owner may still have the manual. All the info you need should be in there.

 

[telectrix]

i tried to Pat test my dishwasher. she didn't half yell when i sent 500V through her on the IR test. .

 

[Risteard]

i tried to Pat test my dishwasher. she didn't half yell when i sent 500V through her on the IR test. .

You mightn't get any continuity into her later...

 

[Deleted member 105166]

This has no manufacturer's name, no rating plate and no CE mark.

These are not considerations of ISITEE. Many appliances, cable assemblies, etc. are vanilla (unbranded).
Unless you're aware that your client has a risk assessment or other procedural document specifying that all equipment must be CE-marked or plated, then I would not be concerned. In the event that something along these lines has been specified, then you should consider under the formal visual inspection (section 14.2 of the 4th Ed. CoP).

 

[mark641]

Thank you who replied, Mark

 

[gutterball]

Unless there is more than one and you need to id individual machines, I just put N/K (not known) as the manufacturer.

 

[Richard Williams]

PAT = Portable Appliance Testing
How portable is a dishwasher?
Just a thought

 

[gutterball]

Look at the code of practice its not just portable appliances.

 

[Deleted member 105166]

PAT = Portable Appliance Testing
How portable is a dishwasher?
Just a thought

ISITEE = In-service Inspection and Testing of Electrical Equipment
4th Ed. CoP, Section 5 refers:
5.4 Stationary appliances or Equipment
"PAT" is a colloquialism

 

[Richard Williams]

misleading, time to rename then perhaps,

 

[Deleted member 105166]

misleading, time to rename then perhaps,

what's misleading?
rename?

I've just looked at my albeit rather tatty copy of the 1st Ed. CoP from 1994, which is titled the same as the current edition.

 

[Richard Williams]

PAT Portable Appliance Test .... how many portable dishwashers can you name ?
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Sorry I even spoke, obviously a lot of ---- sparks out there

 

[Deleted member 105166]

@Richard Williams The point here is the ISITEE Code of Practice defines different types of electrical equipment which come under its scope, of which "portable" is just one type. The other main types are "movable", "hand-held", "stationary" and "fixed".

To simplify, ISITEE picks up on what is not covered by the scope of an EICR under BS7671.

Colloquially, ISITEE is often referred to as "portable appliance testing" or "PAT".
More concerning than the terminology itself is that there are self-styled "portable appliance testers" out there who don't understand the scope of the CoP, often lacking the competence and tools to test anything other than items fitted with a 13A plugtop.

(edited to correct typo)

 

[DPG]

PAT Portable Appliance Test .... how many portable dishwashers can you name ?
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Sorry I even spoke, obviously a lot of ---- sparks out there

It's not being ----, it's being accurate. Some people really do believe that only portable equipment with a plug top on needs testing/inspecting. This is just not true.

 

[pirate]

Portable Appliance testing is just a colloquialism as TonyMitchell stated. There are several types of appliance as also stated, and the testing regime is different for all of them, especially with regard to how often some appliances should be tested. Moveable and hand-held should be tested more frequently than fixed or stationary, and IT is a moveable feast.
The location of the equipment is another factor.
It's boring work, with lots of wasted time, but as a sideline it's ok.
If you find, for example, an oil-filled radiator plugged into a socket, do you test it? How often? Is it fixed or stationary?
If in the next room there is an identical radiator wired into a FCU, do you test it?
IMHO, you test them both. You suggest the testing interval, but don't "set" it, as that is up to the "controller" to do.
If you don't know how to test the latter radiator, then don't do ISITEE because you will find stuff you can't test, because you are not performing the desired service, and "stickering" is just criminal.