Hey guys, just registered to ask this as my Level 2 Engineering Diploma did not cover this 15 years ago :)

I just bought a house and the oven is some basic model I wanted to replace with a Pyrolitic one. While doing a research on how to swap them out I came across the 13/16amp limitation. So I decided to pull it out and check out the wiring behind it.
The situation is as follows:
The current oven is a simple 2.3KW model with hard-wired 3-pin plug at the end of it
It's connected to a socket that's been split off a "Cooker" switch on a wall, which is used for both the Induction stove above and cooker below it.
I have a dedicated 32 amp breaker on the consumer unit labelled "cooker".
In practice it looks like attached "wiring" pic, I pulled out the box from behind the cabinet in"BlackBox" pic.
Where
  • "Grey" is power 'in' coming from "Cooker" switch at the wall
  • "Grey with blue tape" is 'out' to Oven/socket
  • "Black" is 'out' to Induction above

"Switch" is what I've on the wall for completeness

The question I have is:
Am I ok to simply dismantle the 3-pin socket (Grey with blue tape) and use that wiring to connect a 16 amp Oven to the Cooker Switch on the wall directly or do I need professional help making that black box into something more "proper"?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Hey guys, just registered to ask this as my Level 2 Engineering Diploma did not cover this 15 years ago :)

I just bought a house and the oven is some basic model I wanted to replace with a Pyrolitic one. While doing a research on how to swap them out I came across the 13/16amp limitation. So I decided to pull it out and check out the wiring behind it.
The situation is as follows:
The current oven is a simple 2.3KW model with hard-wired 3-pin plug at the end of it
It's connected to a socket that's been split off a "Cooker" switch on a wall, which is used for both the Induction stove above and cooker below it.
I have a dedicated 32 amp breaker on the consumer unit labelled "cooker".
In practice it looks like attached "wiring" pic, I pulled out the box from behind the cabinet in"BlackBox" pic.
Where
  • "Grey" is power 'in' coming from "Cooker" switch at the wall
  • "Grey with blue tape" is 'out' to Oven/socket
  • "Black" is 'out' to Induction above

"Switch" is what I've on the wall for completeness

The question I have is:
Am I ok to simply dismantle the 3-pin socket (Grey with blue tape) and use that wiring to connect a 16 amp Oven to the Cooker Switch on the wall directly or do I need professional help making that black box into something more "proper"?

Thanks in advance.
Looks like it was going to be done properly (chase in wall for a cooker outlet as marked on the wall)

Do away with the junction box and have a dual oven/hob appliance outlet fitted.

You will need an electrician in because the wiring will need to be verified and tested.
 
Looks like a kitchen fitter special there.

The round junction box may not even be rated for the load running through it.

As above, you’ll need a dual outlet, and please check the size of the cable coming from the switch to this joint. The size should be moulded into the plastic sheath somewhere.
 
Thanks for quick replies guys!

I'll be at the house on Friday, will check the wiring out in more detail then.
The house is a flip, and we've been discovering very flip-quality solutions all over the place as we're slowly moving in :)

I'll update here as/when I can!
 
Flip

As in

“Flipping heck, look at the state of that!”




All these property and makeover shows on tv are to blame. 2k on a new kitchen, a splash of paint… it’ll sell for 10k over what you paid and all good… except the wirings shot, there’s a hole in the roof and a family of badgers squatting in the garage.
 
Hehe yeah it feels like it. The number of 'youtubers' with their 'flipping vlogs' etc doesn't help either.
I don't mind getting my hands dirty to bring stuff up to scratch and make it mine. Shame the baseline has fallen so low though.
 

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