struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electrician

[H. Said]

Hello all,

I am 35 years old and have 7 years of work experience as an Electrician in the past. I need to gain a UK qualification because my qualifications are not recognised in the UK.I have been looking for an employer in the Edinburgh area, to start as an adult trainee electrician, for almost one year. I did contact alot of companies online, by post and telephone, without any positive response.
I sat the Electrical IndustryPre-employment Assessment and achieved the required standard.
and I am already on SECTT's list of people looking for employers.
Could anyone give me help and advice please?

Best wishes,
H. Said

 

[Electricalserv]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

What country are you from?

 

[H. Said]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

I am originally from Iraq and now living happily in Scotland

 

[Electricalserv]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

I am originally from Iraq and now living happily in Scotland

Hi mate, I'm not 100% sure bout Scotland but here in England the 17th Edition would be a good start. Then maybe progress onto the 2391.

What sort of work are you looking for? Domestic, commercial or industrial?

 

[H. Said]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

Hi, my past work was all domestic but I am very flexible and don't mind commercial or industrial.

 

[Electricalserv]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

Hi, my past work was all domestic but I am very flexible and don't mind commercial or industrial.

Domestic work ok. Get the 17th Edition Wiring regulations and then 2391 Inspection & testing qualifications and you're good to go!

Here ares some links to those courses.... Requirement for Electrical Installations (BS7671) IEE Regulations (17th Edition): Stevenson College Edinburgh

City & Guilds 2391-10 Inspection and Testing course | Technique Training

 

[H. Said]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

I think those courses are for qualified electricians only, I am not qualified because as I mentioned my qualifications are not recognised in the UK, so I have to start from the first step.

 

[Electricalserv]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

I think those courses are for qualified electricians only, I am not qualified because as I mentioned my qualifications are not recognised in the UK, so I have to start from the first step.

The 17th edition can be taken by anyone! The 2391 can be taken on completion of the 17th edition!

 

[H. Said]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

By taking the 17th edition and 2391 will I be qualified as an electrician and be able to work as an electrician?

 

[Dean]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

Debatable, as i'm sure you'll find out. It all depends what type of work you want to carry out...

 

[72-van]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

Eh no ..

Scotlands a wee bit different to sooth o the rio tweed.

the trade bodies up here only recognise those who have served a full apprenticeship or have completed the adult training route as organised by sectt,,

BUT as you are discovering the catch 22 is finding an employer who i will take you on ..

IF theres someone looking for a man in my next of the woods feel free to drop me a line as well

72-van

 

[Electricalserv]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

It's not debatable. Possibly in Scotland no. In England yes 100% fact

 

[72-van]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

Whilst the law says competenet person and there is no stat licence arrangements this situation of debate will contune until some-one gets there finger oot and fixes it ...
The case for a sparks licence to cover the four home countries is almost absolute to my mind ..
ie no licence no dabbling ...

North of the border we seem to be a lot stricter than south with the part p situation etc .

A little knoledge can be a very dangerous thing ...

mr elecrtricalserv i am not to sure what you last post means ,i take it to mean that you agree with what i have just attempted to post above if not i do apologiise

72-van

 

[Electricalserv]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

Whilst the law says competenet person and there is no stat licence arrangements this situation of debate will contune until some-one gets there finger oot and fixes it ...
The case for a sparks licence to cover the four home countries is almost absolute to my mind ..
ie no licence no dabbling ...

North of the border we seem to be a lot stricter than south with the part p situation etc .

A little knoledge can be a very dangerous thing ...

mr elecrtricalserv i am not to sure what you last post means ,i take it to mean that you agree with what i have just attempted to post above if not i do apologiise

72-van

Was a reply @ Dean. He said it is debatable if you can trade as an electrician with just the 17th & 2391. Its not debatable, here in England & Wales its a fact!

 

[72-van]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

So your telling me that two courses which it it possible to do both within a week you can set yourself up as a spark ,,,,,scary ..

Is that really an acceptable situation?

72-van

 

[Electricalserv]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

So your telling me that two courses which it it possible to do both within a week you can set yourself up as a spark ,,,,,scary ..

Is that really an acceptable situation?

72-van

Yes unfortunately its worse than that. All you have to do is sit a 5 day course and each and every scheme. Elecsa, Napit & NICEIC will let you join there club. It is scary.

I suppose though anyone who has little experience will be found out by their customer....hopefully before any lives are taken or injured!

This is what everybody is getting at. The minimum requirement to trade as an electrician is shocking. The schemes are nothing more than money making scams!

 

[72-van]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

I have to confess that i had looked at joining one of these schemes for Pat testing my reasoning being that i have nothing to hide and the would welcome being inspected and the facility to prove by virtue of the scheme that i aint no label slapper.The problem is that these schemes are quite expensive just to check a couple of pat sites.

I have done as much as i can now to demonstrate that i my pat is up to scratch ..years of onsite experience cg2377 100&200 17th edition and sat (&very probably failed) the cg 2391 course .



72-van

 

[H. Said]

Re: struggling to find an Employer in Edinburgh to start as an adult trainee electric

Thank you all for your replies, very much appreciated. Still confused to be honest.