succinctly put by ^^^^^ dave. no further comments required, unless they are funny.

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There is nothing wrong with this as the feed in to the garage is fused at 13A already.

2 RCDs in series makes it very hard for you to test the RCD tripping times when you carry out the essential tests before putting your new work in to use.

The additional MCBs won’t make any improvement as the current protection is correct, however they will have no practical negative effect on the installation.

Yes the armour should be earthed at least at one end, preferably the supply end.
No DP isolation is not normally required.
Thanks Dave,
It took a lot of work to get there so thanks for your clear definitive answer.
If others would have done this rather than go off on tangents as to why I wanted more sockets etc we would've been done a lot sooner and I wouldn't have needed to sound like a bolshy git, which I'm not unless people get up my nose.
Again thanks Dave.
 
Thanks Dave,
It took a lot of work to get there so thanks for your clear definitive answer.
If others would have done this rather than go off on tangents as to why I wanted more sockets etc we would've been done a lot sooner and I wouldn't have needed to sound like a bolshy git, which I'm not unless people get up my nose.
Again thanks Dave.

Glad you are now sorted mate.
On the flip side of the coin, if you would have just given the info at the beginning then "we would've been done a lot sooner"
 
Glad you are now sorted mate.
On the flip side of the coin, if you would have just given the info at the beginning then "we would've been done a lot sooner"
Spoon, thanks.
To be fair if you read the original post again, the info is there and the questions are there.
Will have to agree to disagree.
 
Spoon, thanks.
To be fair if you read the original post again, the info is there and the questions are there.
Will have to agree to disagree.
asking a lot for some forum electricians to read an OP properly before replying. esp. if it's more than 2 lines. :eek::eek::eek::eek::mad:
 
Spoon, thanks.
To be fair if you read the original post again, the info is there and the questions are there.
Will have to agree to disagree.

That is ok mate... I don't expect everyone to agree with me..
 
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MODS: Any reason why there isn't a Delete Post option, like the Edit option?
 
Unusual thread that, don't get many garage supply queries.
No only a few every so often, seems that garage installs queries are off the radar:smilingimp::tramcar::raisedhands::tongue:

Right guys... I've just had a brain wave....
I'm going to start a course where you can become a GI..... No.. not a soldier... but a Garage Installer...
 
Right guys... I've just had a brain wave....
I'm going to start a course where you can become a GI..... No.. not a soldier... but a Garage Installer...
Don't Spoon, one of the scams will cotton on and start arranging courses. People will start calling themselves Garage Electricians.
 
Don't Spoon, one of the scams will cotton on and start arranging courses. People will start calling themselves Garage Electricians.

But they will be Garage Electricians..... We love all electricians...
 
I didn't take any offence by any of the OP's posts... Text is a rubbish form of communication as you never know how to take then....
I'm just brill, so I took then all happy... Just imagined him skipping through fields with a flower in his mouth while texting away....
 
The op was being quite snippy imho.

I didn't take any offence by any of the OP's posts... Text is a rubbish form of communication as you never know how to take then....
I'm just brill, so I took then all happy... Just imagined him skipping through fields with a flower in his mouth while texting away....
 
I see a reasonable solution here.
Mount a small consumer unit in the house over where the current 13A fused spur sits, feed it with the ring main.
Fit two MCBs, 6A and 20A. Use the existing 1.5mm SWA onto the 6A breaker for a lighting circuits and install another 2.5mm SWA for power. If you really wanted to go the whole hog you could install a 4mm SWA and 32A breaker for the sockets.
 
I see a reasonable solution here.
Mount a small consumer unit in the house over where the current 13A fused spur sits, feed it with the ring main.
Fit two MCBs, 6A and 20A. Use the existing 1.5mm SWA onto the 6A breaker for a lighting circuits and install another 2.5mm SWA for power. If you really wanted to go the whole hog you could install a 4mm SWA and 32A breaker for the sockets.

Yup, that's how a diyer would do it, they don't understand the regs
 
I see a reasonable solution here.
Mount a small consumer unit in the house over where the current 13A fused spur sits, feed it with the ring main.
Fit two MCBs, 6A and 20A. Use the existing 1.5mm SWA onto the 6A breaker for a lighting circuits and install another 2.5mm SWA for power. If you really wanted to go the whole hog you could install a 4mm SWA and 32A breaker for the sockets.
You jest, don't you? feed a CU from the RFC, cloud cuckoo land for sure.
 
I see this post is still going.
First off thanks to all that offered genuine help.
Murdoch, you are right I did invite comments, my mistake I should've said "helpful comments please".
The last suggestion doesn't work as I don't want an ugly CU in my kitchen and the supply to the garage is approx. 5m away buried underground. Not practical to run another cable otherwise I would've just upgraded to a decent supply.
To the people who just like to score points off peoples request for help or your bored with the same questions, I suggest you just don't bother commenting, that way you wont get bored.
 
I see a reasonable solution here.
Mount a small consumer unit in the house over where the current 13A fused spur sits, feed it with the ring main.
Fit two MCBs, 6A and 20A. Use the existing 1.5mm SWA onto the 6A breaker for a lighting circuits and install another 2.5mm SWA for power. If you really wanted to go the whole hog you could install a 4mm SWA and 32A breaker for the sockets.
That is a pretty random solution.
 
^^ I would say the majority of the suggestions were helpful , and regs compliant with good practice.

Just because they don't concur with what you hoped people would say doesn't mean they are unhelpful.
Mate, depends how much you class as a majority.
I have no problem with answers about regs and I don't believe any disagreed with what I asked or planned other than they frowned on the doubling up of the RCD protection.
Asking questions like why and how many sockets do you need isn't helpful.
Stating the obvious like you will only have 13amp supply isn't helpful, all were stated in my original question.
I came on asking questions to get help and got bombarded with people wanting to score points off me with sarcastic replies.
I've come over as a ----- because I cant stand people trying to score points off of me on what is supposed to be a help page. I'm not a ----- but I don't responded well to ---- takers.
 
the ideal solution, as has been said before, is to spend some cash, do some digging, do it right. a decent sized SWA from CU, suitably protected, not on RCD (unless it's TT). then a sub-main ( RCD and 2 or 3 MCBs) then Bob's your gender neutral aunt.
 

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