Board changes, customers and EIC's

[ChrisElectrical88]

So you don't know how to fill out an EIC? You don't know how to deal with clients, GOD help you when you do a board change and the RCD's won't hold and the customer refuses to pay more money. Get a CAVEAT on your quotes/estimates dam quick. This isn't about looking good, believe you me.

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[dtec dave]

Not at all, read my posts I try to help out as many people as I can, I just get sick of silly questions like the rest of the lads on here. You have past the Elecsa assessment which mean you are working alone with a dangerous killer. You should know the simples.

If you are sick of silly questions, don't answer them.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Haha scrap that last post... Waste of time on you.

 

[Badged01]

If you are sick of silly questions, don't answer them.

Now, now play nicely with the other boys .....

 

[telectrix]

7 meg. is compliant with BS7671, so ebter the value on your EIC, make a note that further investigation is advised. learn from this and don't get caught with your pants down next time. bevore a CU change, at least do a few tests so after fitting the new CU, faults don't come back and bite your arse.

 

[Des 56]

How do I then fill out the EIC knowing there is a fault on the installation?

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[dtec dave]

Haha scrap that last post... Waste of time on you.

It would be nice to get some decent advice, before having to go through the obvious replies of 'muppet' and 'should you really be doing this'. There are a lot of people on here that know 95% of what they are doing but come on here to find out the final 5%. These may be silly questions to people that have been in the trade years, but some of us are just starting out and just want to know how to get things 100% right. The muppets out there are the ones NOT on here asking questions but are going hell for leather, installing god knows what!!

 

[Octopus]

If you are sick of silly questions, don't answer them.

The problem is people post here and not use the tech lines of the schemes. You need to grow up.

 

[dan86]

It would be nice to get some decent advice, before having to go through the obvious replies of 'muppet' and 'should you really be doing this'. There are a lot of people on here that know 95% of what they are doing but come on here to find out the final 5%. These may be silly questions to people that have been in the trade years, but some of us are just starting out and just want to know how to get things 100% right. The muppets out there are the ones NOT on here asking questions but are going hell for leather, installing god knows what!!

as much as I agree with you on that, slinks said it best.
last sentence post #19

 

[Kate]

so you could go to do a board change, do all your testing before you actually change the board, find the fault then to be told 'oh we can't afford to sort that out'. You have then spent two hours giving someone a free electrical check???

I would at least IR every circuit. Better than change a board find theres a major fault and not be able to leave at the end of the day until its fixed...which is not a part of original quote and you wouldnt get paid.

I inform any potential board change customers that elec checks need doing prior

 

[dtec dave]

The problem is people post here and not use the tech lines of the schemes. You need to grow up.

Then what is the point of the forum? is it just a social thing? I Think I may have misunderstood the purpose of it. I have learnt loads more on here than I would have done ringing up the helpline, had some good advice in the past, but not without the obligatory 'muppet' jibes!

 

[Octopus]

Then what is the point of the forum? is it just a social thing? I Think I may have misunderstood the purpose of it. I have learnt loads more on here than I would have done ringing up the helpline, had some good advice in the past, but not without the obligatory 'muppet' jibes!

So how many times have you called Elecsa?

The problem with forums is that you WILL get a variety of opinions, and opinions are exactly that, opinions. When you next get to your Elecsa assessment you will be asked questions and saying that you do something because you read it on a forum will NOT earn you brownie points with your assessor.

This thread is a typical example of how opinions vary.

 

[Kate]

Its social and debate. Not a tech helpline

We help if we are asked nicely lol.

 

[telectrix]

your OP may have been badly worded, you got to accept some stick on a forum, same as you'd get on site. christ, i've been called worse things than muppet in my time, but having spent my early years being brought up in the shadow of the knotty ash jam butty mines, it's like water off a mersey duck's back. ( that's if a duck can survive in the mersey with all that polluted water coming down the manchester ship canal with archy's turds floating in it).

 

[Guest55]

but some of us are just starting out and just want to know how to get things 100% right.

by working along side someone more experienced for at least a year instead of rushing out as a 1 man band with a fist full of part p tickets.

 

[Des 56]

To be fair to dtec dave,I like his attitude

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The muppets out there are the ones NOT on here asking questions but are going hell for leather, installing god knows what!!
Well said dtec dave

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just want to know how to get things 100% right.
Your aims are commendable

 

[Guest55]

Then what is the point of the forum? is it just a social thing?

for many of the long term members , yes.

 

[micknew]

Completely agree with Murdoch.
Best you phone ELECSA if your fed up with the advice you have got.
They're very helpful, don't know why you didn't do that in the first place.

 

[dtec dave]

Completely agree with Murdoch.
Best you phone ELECSA if your fed up with the advice you have got.
They're very helpful, don't know why you didn't do that in the first place.

Because it wasn't a technical question I was asking, it was a question asking experienced electricians how they go about doing a board change in relation to finding faults when doing the EIC after the board change. I thought it was a decent question to ask and amongst all the flack I've had I have actually got some decent answers, which I thank everyone for. I'm not sure I would of had a decent answer from Elecsa on this subject.

 

[micknew]

Because it wasn't a technical question I was asking, it was a question asking experienced electricians how they go about doing a board change in relation to finding faults when doing the EIC after the board change. I thought it was a decent question to ask and amongst all the flack I've had I have actually got some decent answers, which I thank everyone for. I'm not sure I would of had a decent answer from Elecsa on this subject.

Why slag off the forum members then?