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Of course, the ---- party did, and they did it equally as well as the Tory party.And no other party produces this propaganda you talk of
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Of course, the ---- party did, and they did it equally as well as the Tory party.And no other party produces this propaganda you talk of
A great prime minister IMO
In France there are no translations, no translators, they do not want incomers and make them feel unwanted!
People banging on about benefit tourism usually don't realise that there are EU countries which have far more generous rates of out of work benefits and far more serious problems with it than we do.
No, let's get the problem into it's proper perspective and not fall for lies told to us by so called politicians who's only answer is to look for a convenient scapegoat.
If I fail it isn't because of Yarrick and Piotr coming here from Poland. It isn't because of Vlad from Romania.
It's because I didn't try hard enough.
Yes, of course. Vote for the main peddler of scapegoats. A single issue party who's only answer to every problem is to blame the EU.
Sorry mate, it's a bit more complicated than that. Leaving the EU will cost this country 4 million jobs, trading with the EU will mean that we still have to comply with the legislation passed by them so what benefit will we get from leaving it?
It pees me off just as much mate but cutting off our nose to spite our face isn't the answer. Maybe Kent has it worse because it's closer to Sangatte but even with leaving the EU we'll still have people trying and succeeding in their attempts to get here.
The stupidity of the EU court of human rights which was successfully campaigned for by none other than Winston Spencer Churchill and protects all of us from government excesses. Yes it's sometimes abused but then again, it's not the only legal process which is abused/misused.I believe he was acclaimed as the best Tory prime minister we never had
You forgot they banned the Burka as well
Could you name a few and how long you have to be resident to make a claim
Republic of Ireland, 200 euros pw, no idea how long you have to be resident there to claim. Maybe Eoin can help out there.
You are one of the many that "wouldn't work for that rate" in reply to some of the jobs posted on here so if it isn't the migrants pushing the rates down because of surplus and cheap labour who is it and don't use that old chestnut of the employers are doing it
Yes I am one of those who would not work for that rate. Wages have been under downward pressure because of the financial crisis. It is employers who are primarily responsible for this because they can get cheap/free labour
But we won't be strangled by EU law and the stupidity of the EU court of human rights and we can send them back
I believe he was acclaimed as the best Tory prime minister we never had
You forgot they banned the Burka as well
Could you name a few and how long you have to be resident to make a claim
You are one of the many that "wouldn't work for that rate" in reply to some of the jobs posted on here so if it isn't the migrants pushing the rates down because of surplus and cheap labour who is it and don't use that old chestnut of the employers are doing it
It's a bit like the arguments / debates closer to home as September comes nearer and the Scottish referendum looms the only difference is neither country will be bankrupt overnight unlike the EU. I'm fairly sure that a ÂŁ385 million ish weekly black hole in the EU accounts will cause a reasonably instant problem within the rest of the EU, be interest to see how the Euro fares on the currency markets if it happens
But we won't be strangled by EU law and the stupidity of the EU court of human rights and we can send them back
What are we going to do with an extra 4 million people on the dole though?
Lots of non EU companies operate here because of the advantages it gives them in trade with the EU. That's where the first jobs will go. Then you have those in the supply chain to those foreign companies, after that will be the jobs which depend on the spending power of those primary and secondary jobs that will be lost.
The EU members will be falling over themselves to tempt those foreign companies to ditch their UK bases and regain the advantageous trade status with the remaining members
I don't trust either of them. You may not agree but many of these foreign companies have already said they'll up sticks if we pull out. Is it worth it? I wouldn't like to call their bluff because their only loyalty is to their shareholders via their bottom line.
Also another British person asked a pole how could he afford to pay insurance on his newish merc
Ha my insurance is ÂŁ50 a year fully comp
Oh I will have some of that replied my co worker
No it's for poles only
I will phone Poland and get insured
No only poles
And this pole could get anything we wanted
Red diesel tools materials all cheaper than I can get it
How many people have died because of the new colours (supposed to make it easier to help other nations work here )
My replies in bold.How can you be certain of this on what EU supporting propaganda is this based
Not based on EU propaganda at all mate, Nissan and many others have said they're gone if we pull out. Some 15,000 people work there. There is a 1:4 ratio in their supply chain so there's 60,000 jobs gone in the companies that supply them. Using the same ratio gives us 240,000 tertiary jobs dependent on the spending power of those.
315,000 jobs in the North East alone.
It would take many years for it to happen and cost those companies a fortune to relocate and train staff it would probably need funding of some sort from a bankrupt EU or a non existent EU
It would also take 2 years for us to withdraw from the EU, plenty of time for those companies to negotiate with other countries. These companies have vast cash reserves so I don't think relocation would be that much of a problem. Also remember, they came here because of funding from a near bankrupt UK at the time. We found the cash, so would Germany or France if it was going to substantially benefit their employment figures
A lot of companies are of the belief the EU will still exist there are countries who are not in the EU who trade into the EU so why can't the UK
Yes there are countries who trade with the EU without membership of it however they are forced to comply with existing and future EU legislation regarding the goods they ship there so the cost to business is still high
A mate's wife came across a Polish shop that had a notice saying no English on the door discrimination at it's best
More a matter for the police I'd say, if your mate's wife thinks a crime is being committed then she should report it. Things like this happen because they are allowed to (although I have heard exactly the same story in the North East. It was supposedly a shop in the west end of Newcastle so perhaps it's another urban myth. Maybe there's a photo of the shop and the sign somewhere. I'll take a look on the net for it)
Isn't that why we RCD everything these days
Farage might be a lot of things and one of them is definately popular. He is talking the talk people want to hear and is voicing what many people here are worried about. I remember we joined a "Common Market" which was based just on that free trade, access to European markets etc. That has now morphed into the "United States of Europe" and all the evils that entail. Free movement of labour is just one part of it which though maybe concerning for me not as concerning as our courts are now daily overturned by the European ones. Policies are made in Europe with mainly an agenda that befits Germany and countries like France if they don't like tge policies ignore them. Perhaps I'm a throw back but I want our Parliment to run our country
Were you there when this conversation went on? Because to me it sounds like yet another urban myth mate.
You know, like the one that surfaces regularly about "My mate knows a bloke who lives next door to an asylum seeker. His brother lives x number of miles away and the government gave him a car and free fuel and insurance so he could go and visit"
If you heard it I'd suggest that this Polish bloke was taking the mick, all I'm picking up is classic victim mentality "they've got it so much easier than we have" "they get everything handed to them on a silver plate" etc etc
Like Eoin said in #129, dole/jsa is 200euros a week in the Republic of Ireland, which idiot is going to come here for ÂŁ70?
Look, I'm not saying that no one comes here for a free ride because we all know that some do BUT we have a lot of our own population, born and bred here, that will neither work nor want. Politicians like Farage are giving people scapegoats and telling them that the problems of the country are all down to those nasty immigrants freeloading and stealing our women and raping our jobs (or something like that)
All I'm saying is wake up and smell the coffee, the problems caused by immigration are miniscule when you consider the profligate way our elected representatives have allowed big business to ride roughshod over us all. It was unregulated banking that caused the financial crisis, not Abdul hiding in a lorry and working in a takeaway for less than minimum wage.
It's business that's forcing down wages and using people on the dole to fill jobs for free that they should be paying people to do. It's MPs that are making US pay to heat their bloody stables and pay for their ÂŁ39 breakfasts, ÂŁ10 burgers, fresh underwear when they should have had the sense to pack a pair and more champagne than you'd need to float an aircraft carrier. It's politicians who have taken us into illegal conflicts which have cost us billions of pounds and hundreds of lives of our armed forces (not to mention hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths)
Don't blame the people they want you to blame, look behind their rhetoric and ask why.
Of course, the ---- party did, and they did it equally as well as the Tory party.
Could you name a few and how long you have to be resident to make a claim
Republic of Ireland, 200 euros pw, no idea how long you have to be resident there to claim. Maybe Eoin can help out there.
Yes I am one of those who would not work for that rate. Wages have been under downward pressure because of the financial crisis. It is employers who are primarily responsible for this because they can get cheap/free labour
The stupidity of the EU court of human rights which was successfully campaigned for by none other than Winston Spencer Churchill and protects all of us from government excesses. Yes it's sometimes abused but then again, it's not the only legal process which is abused/misused.
See my other responses in italics.
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