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Living room will have 12 GU10s. Can anyone recommend any dimmable bulbs that won't flicker and be around 400 lumens each? I've got 4 in the bathroom and despite them being a non-cheapo brand (forgotten exactly) they do flicker from time to time.

Maybe the technology still isn't there yet for good reliable non-flicker bulbs?
 
The technology does exist for non flickering LED fixtures if you are willing to pay the money.

What is your budget?
 
Its still hit and miss that you get the right lamps with the right dimmer switch. But the guidelines are:


DIMMABLE lamps.... not standard ones. Will tell you on the box

Fit the same lamp in every fitting, so they dim equally... (even then, you might get a rogue one that cuts out early

Dimmer switch suitable for LED loads..... Old switches that were designed to simple reduce the voltage to an incandescent lamps are no good
 
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I'm a fan of Philips Master Series GU10 LED's, eg
They claim to work with many dimmers, but I'd go for a quality trailing edge sophisticated one like Varilight V-PRO or Zano.
 
If it's a new build it's worth considering not installing them

Disadvantage of putting that many holes in the ceiling
 
Most likely a dimmer lamp being incompatible!
Majority of dimmer modules are programmable one way or another (unless cheapo brand), Try reprogramming module or replacing module.
Most lamp manufacturers will advise on dimmer brands their lamps will be compatible with.
 
Not a fan of dimmers on downlighters. I'd much rather use multiple switches to switch groups of them instead.
After the positions of the downlighters have been determined, I ask myself questions like" which lights would I have on when watching TV", "which would I want on when reading in the sofa" or " which when I'm eating at the table", and group them accordingly.
If it's a new build it's worth considering not installing them

Disadvantage of putting that many holes in the ceiling
He has a point here. It won't be many years before they go out of fashion, and there's going to be a lot of work for plasterers filling in lots of little round holes (or bigger holes, where the plasterboard has gone brittle from old halogen GU10s.)
 
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Not a fan of dimmers on downlighters. I'd much rather use multiple switches to switch groups of them instead.
After the positions of the downlighters have been determined, I ask myself questions like" which lights would I have on when watching TV", "which would I want on when reading in the sofa" or " which when I'm eating at the table", and group them accordingly.

He has a point here. It won't be many years before they go out of fashion, and there's going to be a lot of work for plasterers filling in lots of little round holes (or bigger holes, where the plasterboard has gone brittle from old halogen GU10s.)
The old type open halogen type seemed to go out of favour for a lot of reasons, fire/thermal/acoustic/energy use etc

They seem to have made a comeback now with the new improved fittings and lamps

12 is a lot on a ceiling though
 
The old type open halogen type seemed to go out of favour for a lot of reasons, fire/thermal/acoustic/energy use etc

They seem to have made a comeback now with the new improved fittings and lamps

12 is a lot on a ceiling though
Its a big ceiling
 
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They seem to have made a comeback now with the new improved fittings and lamps
Really? I’ve not seen them being pushed in our wholesalers, and couldn’t get some spare lamps for and existing install as they don’t stock many types these days!
When most clients compare the simple economics of cost of using 50w halogen to 5w LED it’s a no brainer (ie 10 x cheaper ).
 
Really? I’ve not seen them being pushed in our wholesalers, and couldn’t get some spare lamps for and existing install as they don’t stock many types these days!
When most clients compare the simple economics of cost of using 50w halogen to 5w LED it’s a no brainer (ie 10 x cheaper ).
Wires crossed i probably wasn't clear

I was stating that the original open halogens were unsuitable for domestic

The comeback has been on the newer improved fittings and led lamps
 
When most clients compare the simple economics of cost of using 50w halogen to 5w LED it’s a no brainer (ie 10 x cheaper ).
You'd think so, but I find plenty of people who just don't get it. My own in-laws for one. Saves on the oil heating bill in winter, I suppose.
 

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