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I'm dreading retiring
It is to become and electrician these days, so many people call themselves electricians and don’t even know how to lift a floor board. The scams have ALOT to answer for allowing such people into the industry.
SWOT !.Very true ............ a broad knowledge of all types of construction methods plus a broad understanding of all the other trades and all the building regs is required ........... not things you can learn overnight
I was in a builders "team" meeting today and he asked who had read any of the building regs in the last 12 months - I was the only 1 to put up my hand - the most recent one I read was about the changes to heating systems ..........
Teachers PetVery true ............ a broad knowledge of all types of construction methods plus a broad understanding of all the other trades and all the building regs is required ........... not things you can learn overnight
I was in a builders "team" meeting today and he asked who had read any of the building regs in the last 12 months - I was the only 1 to put up my hand - the most recent one I read was about the changes to heating systems ..........
Whow sad is that? LOL!
I learnt from the Master Pirate......... Pirate Twinkle Toes from now on.sleep all night, work all day?
wear women's clothing?
Way to go SWD!
Part P is irrelevant IMHO
The guy who goes to a wholesaler for a ten-metre length and discovers that 10 metres plus 'cutting' charge is only slightly less than a 50-metre reel.I mean what DIY'er needs a 50m drum of cable?
to allow for the 4 x 10m lengths he's cocked up.
The electrician would more than likely to have been told by the Surveyor that you wanted the extra sockets, and not explained that you were willing to pay for a specific model, me I would take issue with the Surveyor for not passing on this info, out of interest was it the Big Orange shed who installed your kitchen?There is another slant on this topic. I have had a new kitchen installed by one of the big chains. They do have qualified electrical and gas fitters.
As part of the major refit I wanted a few (about 6 doubles) additional sockets and obviously I wanted these to match the ones already fitted that would remain. I was quoted for the additional work but when the team leader (the electrician) turned up it became apparent that he had expected me (without telling me) to identify the fittings and to have obtained them all myself. He would only supply white sockets. He wanted them all to be available the next day! If only he had told me several weeks beforehand!
As it happens I am sufficiently familiar with electrical wiring to be able to make a good guess as to the manufacturer and range and I had to order them on-line as the DIY stores did not appear to stock all the matching parts I needed and local stockists did not list what they stocked. I was able to get them all from Amazon very quickly (but they was a problem with the delivery but that is another story...). They are all now fitted and I have all of the necessary certificates and Building Control have been notified about the new circuits.
The point is that if I had not been able to identify and buy the electrical fittings (power sockets and light switches) I would not have been able to have matching sockets and the appearance of the new (expensive) kitchen would have been compromised.
I still have my own service company (computer services - it is being closed down at the moment as I have recently retired) and trade suppliers would almost certainly have opened a trade account if necessary. I believe my degree (Electrical Engineering in 1963) was sufficient qualification at one time to do electrical work (although I never have other than minor replacements of broken sockets) and I have a very good understanding of electrical safety hazards (although I am only familiar with the regulations up to the 16 edition) as I have been designing large computer systems for 55 years.
Is it typical for an electrician to expect the customer to identify and source their own power sockets, light switches etc? Most people would not have known where to start looking and if there was a ban on buying such components as a private individual I would have had a serious problem.
What sort of certification did this installer leave you when he finished testing the installation?The installer is self employed but was provided by the "shed" (no it wasn't the Orange one) to do both the survey and the installation.
The basic kitchen installation cost was included in the original quotation but additional work (like sockets and lighting wiring) was extra and paid directly to him. I specified to the installer how many additional sockets I required and where I wanted them. He quoted me for all the additional installation work including all of the additional power sockets and two new circuits for the ovens. I paid the installer directly for most of the additional items (not just wiring).
The installer is registered for both gas and electrical work and did all of the electrical installation work himself. He had other members of his team that did much of the rest of the installation.
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