is it really worth completing my apprenticeship/becoming an electrician.

[Mike Johnson]

Except in Scotland Is there such a thing as an "apprenticeship contract" since the advent of the "contract of employment" ?

 

[rapparee]

Except in Scotland Is there such a thing as an "apprenticeship contract" since the advent of the "contract of employment" ?

We give our apprentices a 4 year contract which tell them up front that they will be kept for four years, what they will be paid each year and there is no obligation to keep them after they are qualified.

If we do decide to take on a qualified individual after their apprenticeship ends, then we will advertise the vacancy and they will have to apply for it.

Literally sit through an interview and everything

 

[The apprentice]

very rewarding trade if yor kean to learn

 

[Mike Johnson]

Do the apprentice contracts include indenture papers as the old apprentice papers did or is it just a contract between a company and an individual?

 

[rapparee]

Do the apprentice contracts include indenture papers as the old apprentice papers did or is it just a contract between a company and an individual?

Just the company and the individual

We state that we will send them to the local college to be trained.

The fitter apprenticeship is delivered by the "Southern " Ireland colleges, so the contract is a contract between the company, individual and training board, FÁS/Solas

 

[ElectroChem]

If we do decide to take on a qualified individual after their apprenticeship ends, then we will advertise the vacancy and they will have to apply for it.

Literally sit through an interview and everything

If someone's been working with you for four years and you have to hold an interview to decide if they're worth keeping on then I submit the answer is 'no'.

 

[nicebutdim]

If someone's been working with you for four years and you have to hold an interview to decide if they're worth keeping on then I submit the answer is 'no'.

If there had been 10 apprentices and only 3 permanent roles offered, I'd guess that this would be the simplest way of avoiding employment tribunals.

 

[ferg]

If there had been 10 apprentices and only 3 permanent roles offered, I'd guess that this would be the simplest way of avoiding employment tribunals.

Also a really good way of keeping apprentices on their toes.
There is IMHO a difference between being a bad employee and having done enough to be dismissed.

 

[nicebutdim]

Also a really good way of keeping apprentices on their toes.
There is IMHO a difference between being a bad employee and having done enough to be dismissed.

In this instance they aren't being dismissed as their contract was for an apprenticeship.

It's not ideal that they might then have to secure future employment, but everyone knows someone who never completed a napprenticeship for reasons beyond their own control. At least this way they're guaranteed a full apprenticeship (provided they do what's expected of an apprentice).