I vaguely remember them. Same as FSO weren't they? One of the variants of the Fiat 128?
NICEIC Certification Scheme NICEIC launches bursary to encourage female electricians into the industry
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I vaguely remember them. Same as FSO weren't they? One of the variants of the Fiat 128?
Yeah your right, I was thinking I was being a bit harsh there while lying under my Van tying to work out where all the oil is leaking from. We will definitely get out-bred if we are not careful. Like you say the four wife/20 kids brigade will do us by stealth.
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elsparko
you guys forget what makes britain britain, defeating practically every nation on the planet at some point whilst we are outnumbered physically, we are not matched mentally
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elsparko
the 4 wives/20 kids "brigade" are easily dealt with once gloves are allowed to come off, i for one am not in the slightest worried, if all the might of rome couldnt smash through this island nation then some nomads from the desert stand no chance.
Who's 'We'?
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elsparko
the natives?
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elsparko
the way i see it is, it saves us fighting in the desert again with the sand damaging equipment, plus home team advantage, those 20 kids per family are just fodder for our future soldiers, they believe some peadophile split the moon, i think britain will be just fine defeating these LOL
I'll let you off the TV licence.
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elsparko
the way i see it is, it saves us fighting in the desert again with the sand damaging equipment, plus home team advantage, those 20 kids per family are just fodder for our future soldiers, they believe some peadophile split the moon, i think britain will be just fine defeating these LOL
the bbc are part of this problem, covering up all the rape gangs that are 80% a certain demographic of our population..
let me off? i never had or intend to own one lol, my t.v is used for gaming only, everything else i can watch online and stream to my xbox/tv
the bbc are part of this problem, covering up all the rape gangs that are 80% a certain demographic of our population..
I'm not disputing that... it's a problem for a lot of people who want to study and improve themselves. One I fully understand on the basis I couldn't afford to score the last 120 points to get the maths degree I spent years working on with the OU.
In the case you've given though... she works/trains with you... so how much do you think you could increase your profits if you had her working for you in the 12 months after she qualifies? If that number is bigger than what it would cost to financially support her to finish I'd be offering her financial support on the basis she works for you for 12 months after, and I say 12 months because any more than that can seem like a ball and chain (it's put me off having an employer pay for training before). In that scenario you both win... she gets to finish and you get a good employee who is grateful to you for supporting her and more importantly for the show of faith and trust.
She isn't the target or my ire though as she clearly didn't need a financial incentive or a leg up to get into the industry and good on her.
My ire is firmly directed at the notion that we need a 50/50 split in the number of male/female employees.
Artificially trying to create a 50/50 split in every industry will ultimately mean people are being hired not on merit but on some arbitrary attribute and that is equality of outcome, which cannot be allowed to happen, the job market must operate on merit and equality of opportunity.
The problem is, it doesn't stop with a persons sex... there used to be a running joke in my home town that you'd only get a job with the council if you were a lesbian from an ethnic minority with a disability and a kid (the language used was somewhat coarser than that but you get the picture) because there was a stage where every job ad was accompanied by a list of attributes the ideal candidate should have, none of which dealt with their ability to do the job being advertised.
Thanks @DPG .... none taken
Just stop it @SparkyChick .... My Google can only take sooo much...
Again, where are all the pictures...
Again, where are all the pictures...
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elsparko
my grandad has some stories of some secret handshake lads dying on jobs they were underqualified for
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elsparko
just look at the military in western countries now allowing for females to join frontline roles, not that it matters now that there are armies for hire
i wouldnt waste my time with a state military now
i wouldnt waste my time with a state military now
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The Ghost
To be clear, I work part time and semi retired mode. I was asked by a friend if I had any work for the person in question to up their electrical installation knowledge. So it came out as I occasionally offer work which I think may be of educational value. As much as I like the idea of being able to employ train others I cannot. Just occasional one off really, just not enough in the kitty. As for profit, there is none.
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How does that work? Wouldn't the other side just offer more money to get 'our army' to attack us?
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elsparko
they could do just that, but most wont, these private armies are generally used by large corporations in 3rd world nations.
it works just like the military, only less rules to follow in combat, and a nice wage for the guys on the ground too, wasnt unheard of for the "grunts" to be on over $100k for a 6 month tour
About 30 years ago when I was a young Sparks the bloke I worked for took on a young lady who expressed an interest in the trade [She was very friendly with one of his daughters too] . Although she was keen she was barely 5 feet tall and very slightly built so had difficulty holding a big drill or carrying a ladder for example , and when we introduced her to filthy loft spaces she packed it all in. This just illustrates Sparkychicks excellent posts from a slightly different angle.
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The Ghost
And another thing, all this its good/bad/indifferent male/female polemics; could not be any more disinterested. If the money is there don't look a gift horse in the mouth, irregardless the reason it is offered for. If they were offering £1000 pound bursaries for old gits with false teeth who don't like cats I would go for it. While the rest of the snowflakes tripped up over themselves fainting in horror.
Bugger... I like cats...
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Squid
911 Porka
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Squid
Thank God for that I thought you may be male chicken inclined......... ;o))))
I wasn't aware of your work situation. Now I am I think it's a shame you're not in a position to help more.
If you're thinking blonde well endowed in the boob department, I hate to disappoint, but no I'm not. Far from it.
Wouldn't want to be that big up top to be honest, they're a bloody nightmare now, any bigger and they'd probably end up suffocating my respirator when I've got my head in a floor void looking for cables
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Squid
I was thinking more along the lines of rich...........
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Squid
I have Polish blood whats too much?
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elsparko
i seen a female plumber in the wholesaler once, the workclothes were far too clean, practically anything i wear to work becomes only for work, especially if working around painters , or with any silicone it usually gets wiped on the trews
dont know how anyone doing any sort of construction job doesnt end up with dirt everywhere, reminds me of the workwear on t.v programmes, phil mitchells car garage seems to have plenty of work but alas the workers boiler suits are brand new out the packet condition
even the tidiest of tradesmen/women should have a bit of silicone on their trews otherwise they raise my suspicion
dont know how anyone doing any sort of construction job doesnt end up with dirt everywhere, reminds me of the workwear on t.v programmes, phil mitchells car garage seems to have plenty of work but alas the workers boiler suits are brand new out the packet condition
even the tidiest of tradesmen/women should have a bit of silicone on their trews otherwise they raise my suspicion
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Bobster
Maybe she had finally replaced the ones she had been working in.
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The Ghost
That one!
I like women. And I have no agenda that might lead to any form of conflict or problem, I am happily married for the past 30+ years and I aint going anywhere now!
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elsparko
my generation of "women" are barely worth talking to, this is the generation of the bachelor
just goes to show how far we are from equality! Shifting attitudes is the hardest parts. Yes maybe women want to stay at home with friends go shopping whatever due to being brought up with today's attitudes, but maybe having almost no role models and everyone assuming like sparkying is not women's work will put them off from a young age.
Yes, in any industry you get a few people male or female who will always want to go in and be the best, but a young man not sure what he wants to do, will be encouraged to see sparkying as something suitable, but for a young women, people aren't queuing up to recommend it to them. Oh wait, that's exactly what this scheme is.
The shocking figures speak for themselves TBH. No pun intended. not empowering women is everyone's failing.
Sorry for the essay but I didn't see anyone else saying it, hope it's ok with everyone!
Yes, in any industry you get a few people male or female who will always want to go in and be the best, but a young man not sure what he wants to do, will be encouraged to see sparkying as something suitable, but for a young women, people aren't queuing up to recommend it to them. Oh wait, that's exactly what this scheme is.
The shocking figures speak for themselves TBH. No pun intended. not empowering women is everyone's failing.
Sorry for the essay but I didn't see anyone else saying it, hope it's ok with everyone!
Equality of what exactly?
For the record, I have no problem with any schemes designed to enlighten women, but as soon as you start offering financial incentives it should be open to everyone. If it's not, it's sexism in it's purest form plain and simple, and that's called affirmative action, which is out and out wrong!
Yeah, after 7 years they've not been able to change the gender balance much... maybe... just maybe that suggests there isn't actually a problem?
So, are you equally bothered by the under representation of men in biological sciences, medicine and dentistry, agriculture and related subjects and veterinary sciences?
Not empowering men in those fields is everyone's failing!
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elsparko
all i have to look at for an example is zimbabwe post mugabe, giving farms to non farmers and slaughtering the only ones making food for the entire country.
then 10 years later mugabe is whining and moaning that his tummy is rumbling
then 10 years later mugabe is whining and moaning that his tummy is rumbling
I sort of knew that. Just wanted to know why he thought it was shocking.
I'm thinking Sir Cliff Richard .... I felt the urge to procreate - I'm not perfect / but neither is the world ...
(too many perfect-"Models out there with broken lives"
don't need to copy them .
Get real ,Become a proud dad , a great feeling )
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