Notifiable work?

[Gavsparky]

Hi all, for example if I have a job doing some minor works or even a new circuit installation and the client was not wanting a certificate for the said works due to keeping costs down would this be acceptable within laws and who would be responsible. Cheers

 

[Sintra]

Certification should be supplied for all work carried out and should be included in the costs. IMO certification is not an extra that can be omitted to save a few quid.

 

[Gavsparky]

Even if a customer was adamant on saving where possible, and therefore that responsibility would be held with them?

 

[Octopus]

^^^^ wot he said ^^^^

And you know its a new circuit so you should notify it too.

 

[Andy78]

Even if a customer was adamant on saving where possible, and therefore that responsibility would be held with them?

How the heck would the responsibility be with the customer ? It's you thats carrying out the work, its you that needs to certify it in accordance with BS7671.

 

[micknew]

Hi all, for example if I have a job doing some minor works or even a new circuit installation and the client was not wanting a certificate for the said works due to keeping costs down would this be acceptable within laws and who would be responsible. Cheers

Why do you ask, are you not qualified?
Odd question if you are.

 

[Octopus]

Even if a customer was adamant on saving where possible, and therefore that responsibility would be held with them?

So with Elecsa, the notification will cost YOU £1.80 - if your profit margin can't afford this, you need a new abacus.

 

[Gavsparky]

How the heck would the responsibility be with the customer ? It's you thats carrying out the work, its you that needs to certify it in accordance with BS7671.

As I've said if it wasn't to be certified due to an adamant customer not wanting legal binding documentation, it would therefore be their responsibility surely?

 

[micknew]

He's gone, perhaps he didn't like the answers.

 

[Sintra]

Even if a customer was adamant on saving where possible, and therefore that responsibility would be held with them?

No the responsibility would be on you as you would be in breach of section 6 bs 7671

 

[Octopus]

As I've said if it wasn't to be certified due to an adamant customer not wanting legal binding documentation, it would therefore be their responsibility surely?

Then walk away. Sounds a bit fishy to me.

Your responsibility as a competent spark is to design, install, test, certify and where relevent notify - just because some dummy doesn't want this done why wouldn't you?

Or do you ride your horse to your clients?

 

[Marvo]

How do you work out that not certifying the work transfers the responsibility to the customer. If you ended up in a court of law and this was your defence you won't have a leg to stand on.

 

[micknew]

As I've said if it wasn't to be certified due to an adamant customer not wanting legal binding documentation, it would therefore be their responsibility surely?

Not in the eyes of the law when they trace the job back to you when something goes wrong.

 

[Gavsparky]

Why do you ask, are you not qualified?
Odd question if you are.

The question isn't odd, just a thought

 

[micknew]

Only a DIYer would see certification as an obstacle.

 

[Gavsparky]

Then walk away. Sounds a bit fishy to me.

Your responsibility as a competent spark is to design, install, test, certify and where relevent notify - just because some dummy doesn't want this done why wouldn't you?

Or do you ride your horse to your clients?

Less of the lip big man, just merely a thought

Get of your hypothetical high horse!

 

[Andy78]

As I've said if it wasn't to be certified due to an adamant customer not wanting legal binding documentation, it would therefore be their responsibility surely?

Even if you could get a customer to sign a waiver that stated they were responsible for your untested work(which aint gonna happen), you would still be working against the regs by not testing your installation and issuing certification.

Tell this customer to do one, then get the regs out and do some homework.

 

[Gavsparky]

Only a DIYer would see certification as an obstacle.

I hope we haven't found a keyboard warrior here!

 

[micknew]

Less of the lip big man, just merely a thought

Get of your hypothetical high horse!

How rude when Murdoch was trying to help.

 

[Marvo]

However you bend this you're not going to get out of the responsibility you have of notifying your work and I'm pretty sure you won't find anyone on here or anywhere else for that matter who'll tell you otherwise.

I'm closing this one before it gets ugly.