Oh Hager, you little beauty...

[happysteve]

First time using Hager ADA reduced height RCBOs (as opposed to their tall ADN range).

See how beautifully they match up with their MTN circuit breakers (circuit far right next to main switch, for SWA feed to shed).

Compare to BG, my "go to" budget (and garage DB) brand... can't even get their MCBs to match...

I do wish Hager would make boards with round knock-outs, though.

 

[Andy78]

Used a few of the reduced height RCBOs at home last week. Very nice to use and liked the lack of FE lead.
I use Hager for garage boards too. Far better than the BG lump and not expensive at all.
The design 30 range comes with a plain case option for every board so you can drill your own entries. I am used to the rectangular knockouts and trunking approach now though.

 

[Squid]

Is the Isolate label "slightly" out of alignment?

 

[happysteve]

Is the Isolate label "slightly" out of alignment?

Possibly, possibly... more likely to be lens barrel distortion, though

 

[Midwest]

Is the Isolate label "slightly" out of alignment?

And the cut out bit for the RCBO's looks a bit wavy too

 

[happysteve]

And the cut out bit for the RCBO's looks a bit wavy too

That's definitely camera barrel distortion.
Edit: looking at it, more like pincushion...

 

[Midwest]

Why did you sit on a barrel or pincushion to take the pic, you lazy arse.

 

[happysteve]

Well I couldn't sit on my crate of beer, I'd drunk it all!

 

[Midwest]

Well I couldn't sit on my crate of beer, I'd drunk it all!

Thats just bad planning

 

[Rpa07]

I like the Hager blank on that board - it’s so much prettier than gaffer tape!

 

[mattg4321]

Hager do make boards with round knockouts! Wholesalers moan and groan about getting them in though. I agree that the square knockouts are pants

 

[Squid]

Hager do make boards with round knockouts! Wholesalers moan and groan about getting them in though. I agree that the square knockouts are pants

Do they make square grommets?

 

[Andy78]

Do they make square grommets?

Yes. They supply a length of (pretty crappy) grommet strip in every board. They also currently supply a tails grommet and a couple of square grommets with every board. I think the design 30 boards also come with a rear entry grommet. All the grommets can be bought as extras too.

Hager Design 10 Range Accessories - https://www.fastlec.co.uk/hagerdesign10acc-hager-design-10-range-accessories.html

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Do they make square grommets?

yes they do @SWD

That consumer unit is like electricians ----, something strangely satisfying about it..

 

[Andy78]

I like the Hager blank on that board - it’s so much prettier than gaffer tape!

I've taken to using the Wylex metal blanks in my boards. They take up much less room in the van than bags of Hager blanks.

 

[Adam W]

Yes. They supply a length of (pretty crappy) grommet strip in every board. They also currently supply a tails grommet and a couple of square grommets with every board. I think the design 30 boards also come with a rear entry grommet. All the grommets can be bought as extras too.

Hager Design 10 Range Accessories - https://www.fastlec.co.uk/hagerdesign10acc-hager-design-10-range-accessories.html

Do they make square conduit as well?

 

[Andy78]

Do they make square conduit as well?

They have sized and spaced the knockouts so that standard sizes of trunking butt up to them.

 

[Adam W]

They have sized and spaced the knockouts so that standard sizes of trunking butt up to them.

I should hope they have, but that still doesn't help if you want to use conduit, or for that matter SWA.
OK you could fit a bit of steel trunking above it, bond that and gland off it, bit it's a bit of a faff and it's going to look a bit, um, 'unpolished'.

 

[Andy78]

I should hope they have, but that still doesn't help if you want to use conduit, or for that matter SWA.
OK you could fit a bit of steel trunking above it, bond that and gland off it, bit it's a bit of a faff and it's going to look a bit, um, 'unpolished'.

There's loads of room where the knockouts aren't to accommodate SWA and conduit. But as said earlier in the thread, you can get plain case options and now round knockout options.

 

[Squid]

yes they do @SWD

That consumer unit is like electricians ----, something strangely satisfying about it..

Thats me sorted for the evening then............

 

[telectrix]

nobody heard of these beasties then????

 

[Adam W]

nobody heard of these beasties then????

On some brands you may have to bend the casing in the process of beating out the knockout, but in others you'd struggle to drill a hole in the middle of a knockout without it falling out, not that you'd trust the earth continuity to your earthed sheathing anyway.

 

[Squid]

I thought Starrett, where the go to hole cutters.

 

[Squid]

There's loads of room where the knockouts aren't to accommodate SWA and conduit. But as said earlier in the thread, you can get plain case options and now round knockout options.

Thought the best option was a 4x4 box terminate to that then run the cables to the CSU. Or am I 30 years out of date lol.

 

[Andy78]

Thought the best option was a 4x4 box terminate to that then run the cables to the CSU. Or am I 30 years out of date lol.

I used to do that or a similar method every time with insulated consumer units. I have nearly always glanded straight into small metal clad boards though.

 

[polo1]

First time using Hager ADA reduced height RCBOs (as opposed to their tall ADN range).

See how beautifully they match up with their MTN circuit breakers (circuit far right next to main switch, for SWA feed to shed).

View attachment 43463

Compare to BG, my "go to" budget (and garage DB) brand... can't even get their MCBs to match...

View attachment 43465

I do wish Hager would make boards with round knock-outs, though.

Can I ask, what did you pay for board & per rcbo; supplier?
TIA

 

[Iain Kay]

I've always found Hager to be the best looking CUs. They just look so much more pro.

Especially the big three phase models.

 

[happysteve]

Can I ask, what did you pay for board & per rcbo; supplier?
TIA

Not sure I'm allowed to say as they are not a forum sponsor (which I do support when I can), let's just say they are an online discount electrical supplier. Came in at ~£220.

 

[davesparks]

I've always found Hager to be the best looking CUs. They just look so much more pro.

Especially the big three phase models.

Since when has ‘looking pro’ been an important design consideration in the protectection of an installation?

 

[Iain Kay]

Since when has ‘looking pro’ been an important design consideration in the protectection of an installation?

It's not at all.

Given OP posted specifically about how beautiful the new ADA reduced height RCBOs looked, I felt that my personal opinion on the Hagers looks in general were valid in response.

I completely agree that looks mean little for the safety of an installation though, unless you're talking damaged cables or mounting issues that can be identified by visual checks alone.

 

[Briggs69]

First time using Hager ADA reduced height RCBOs (as opposed to their tall ADN range).

See how beautifully they match up with their MTN circuit breakers (circuit far right next to main switch, for SWA feed to shed).

View attachment 43463

Compare to BG, my "go to" budget (and garage DB) brand... can't even get their MCBs to match...

View attachment 43465

I do wish Hager would make boards with round knock-outs, though.

Try the new Wylex reduced height rcbo’s we have fitted tons of them and there amazing i won’t be fitting anything else the quality is superb.i would not touch bg there stuff is shocking

 

[Adam W]

I thought Starrett, where the go to hole cutters.

They're what most of the wholesalers sell, and TBH when you want a holesaw you go into the wholesalers and ask for a specific size and not a specific make.
Bosch holesaws are pretty good.

 

[Adam W]

Since when has ‘looking pro’ been an important design consideration in the protectection of an installation?

I'm not convinced that that's even a word.
Either way the choice of brand for accessories, fixtures and fittings is often dictated by the installer based on ease of installation and not safety.

 

[Ian1981]

First time using Hager ADA reduced height RCBOs (as opposed to their tall ADN range).

See how beautifully they match up with their MTN circuit breakers (circuit far right next to main switch, for SWA feed to shed).

View attachment 43463

Compare to BG, my "go to" budget (and garage DB) brand... can't even get their MCBs to match...

View attachment 43465

I do wish Hager would make boards with round knock-outs, though.

I’m completely the opposite, love the square/rectangular knockouts to match the trunking and dislike the round ones

 

[BrendonP]

I also like the trunking knockouts for domestic, but not so much on commercials/industrial.

These are my favourite hole saws.

https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/armeg-acceler-sheet-steel-holesaw-set-3-pieces/3461r

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I've taken to using the Wylex metal blanks in my boards. They take up much less room in the van than bags of Hager blanks.

Oh dear, type testing out the window.

 

[freddo]

Interesting, I've just ordered Hager Design 50 consumer units for home here and the reduced height RCBOs, surge protection, doorbell transformer and a few other bits. Not seen the Design 50 in the flesh before. I'm still not really a fan of their 3 phase stuff, the enclosures are flimsy rubbish, prefer Eaton for 3 phase, now that Merlin stuff has turned to sh**.

 

[Midwest]

Interesting, I've just ordered Hager Design 50 consumer units for home here and the reduced height RCBOs, surge protection, doorbell transformer and a few other bits. Not seen the Design 50 in the flesh before. I'm still not really a fan of their 3 phase stuff, the enclosures are flimsy rubbish, prefer Eaton for 3 phase, now that Merlin stuff has turned to sh**.

Most bods get a 65'' tv, or even a washer dryer that has wifi connect ability. Whatever.

 

[freddo]

I still don't own a working TV.

 

[Midwest]

I still don't own a working TV.

Why don't you get it fixed?

 

[Richard Burns]

Just used the Hager reduced height RCBOs and thought they were well designed and easy to use.
They did not fit the very old hager board I wanted them to fit though!

 

[Andy78]

Just used the Hager reduced height RCBOs and thought they were well designed and easy to use.
They did not fit the very old hager board I wanted them to fit though!

That's unusual, the range is usually backwards compatible right to old Ashley Rock branded stuff.