Part P

[electromonkey]

Alright Tanzmantic, how's it going,

Considering your background, I'd give one of the registration bodies a call. You can speak to someone in relation to what qualifications you already have and they can advise you of any additional ones you may need before they agree to accept your membership application.
The NICEIC, NAPIT and ELECSA all run courses themselves so they may be able to help you in that department too.

 

[lauriehurman]

Great post DurhamSparky.electrical work.

My advice to anyone who has picked up qualifications but has had very little hands on work is to go and get yourself some experience first.

But can't you see what a nonsense that is?
I'm not making a personal attack either but saying don't gain experience until you've got experience is just not very sensible.
Sorry

 

[electromonkey]

Great post DurhamSparky.electrical work.

My advice to anyone who has picked up qualifications but has had very little hands on work is to go and get yourself some experience first.

But can't you see what a nonsense that is?
I'm not making a personal attack either but saying don't gain experience until you've got experience is just not very sensible.
Sorry

I think you have misinterpreted what I have said. I was trying to point out to that doing a handful of short intensive courses does not provide you with much needed experience. It gives you the qualifications and you come away from them with technical understanding but doesn't give you the grounding required in the practical sense. Qualification does not equal experience.

 

[tazmantic]

Hi electromonkey thanks for the reply and sounds like a good idea Ill have to give them a ring see what they say and as for experance your totally right only thing with that is (and its the boat I fear I will be in shortly) when it comes to applying for jobs either for personal reasons or redundancy most employers look at the bits of paper you have not the years you have been doing it.........Im sure if I applied for a job as well as some young guy with every piece of paper (but maybe no hands on experance) they would be more interested in him...........we recently had this exact situation where I work young guy with all the bits of paper but when it came to doing the job

I was lucky when I joined the guys in charge then looked further than paperwork but my problem now is as I can do the work the MDs dont want to send me on any courses as it costs money so thats why Im looking to do it at my own time and expense....sorry for the waffle lol

 

[lauriehurman]

<<<doing a handful of short intensive courses does not provide you with much needed experience. --- Qualification does not equal experience.

>>>>

Every body agrees with this. This is the point from which we all start. The question is - what to do about it?

How about we buddy up? Each person with the experience but without the Quals teams up with the person with the pieces of paper but no experience.
A year or two of self employed domestic work should give each one the chance to get their missing experience/qualifications.
I'd say a forum like this would be the perfect place to set something like that up.

Laurie

 

[jonesyc894]

So am I right in saying. If your competent and part of a scheme you can kick the part P to one side??

 

[malcolmsanford]

So am I right in saying. If your competent and part of a scheme you can kick the part P to one side??

No you still have to abide by Part P of the building regulations.

 

[tazmantic]

>>>>

Every body agrees with this. This is the point from which we all start. The question is - what to do about it?

How about we buddy up? Each person with the experience but without the Quals teams up with the person with the pieces of paper but no experience.
A year or two of self employed domestic work should give each one the chance to get their missing experience/qualifications.
I'd say a forum like this would be the perfect place to set something like that up.

Laurie

Count me in........So who wants to train this thicky and when can we start :0)

 

[pcuz]

Hey all
Ive just gone through this whole thread (11 pages) which has been an eye opener as I AM one of those Joe Bloggs, Mr No-Experience, Short course dudes!
I havent started it yet, or paid either (Im getting funding) but Im thinking I should direct the funding elsewhere as I was always skeptical about how 16 days would turn me into a qualified sparky. Unfortunately, being 41, options are running out and Id spent ages doing research before I finalised on Electrical training, so cock knows what I can do instead.
Incidentally, the training centre I spoke to totally gave me the impression that they were more interested in the money than anything else. When they discovered I was being funded, the greedy dog (I could hearing him slavvering, I swear it) even asked how much I was getting so that he could "extend" my training.
Plus, with no experience, by the sounds of things, Id really struggle with the training, though I was pencilled in to do a 5 day pre-part P foundation...But that means nada to me, it could be important or might be a shopping list.?!?
Thanks for all the posts. Really enlightening.

Paul

 

[DurhamSparky]

glad you took time to read the thread..!