Washing Machine in Bathroom

[Elmer BeFuddled]

So long as the outlet(s) are placed sensibly, and have RCD protection, (some require 10mA RCD) then it's not a problem!!

Eng54, you forget we have to cater to the lowest common denominator (thicko). The one who'd rest the 3 bar leccy fire on the edge of the kiddies bath as its cold in there.

 

[Engineer54]

Eng54, you forget we have to cater to the lowest common denominator (thicko). The one who'd rest the 3 bar leccy fire on the edge of the kiddies bath as its cold in there.

Why, ...Do you think all the Thickos of this world, all reside in the UK?? lol!! A thicko is a thicko, no-matter what nationality or country they live in!! lol!!

 

[odawire]

and it will incorpoate a socket outlet which itself will rerquire RCD protection whether it's in the bathroom or in his ferret hutch.

could go on a FCU

 

[telectrix]

Why, ...Do you think all the Thickos of this world, all reside in the UK?? lol!! A thicko is a thicko, no-matter what nationality or country they live in!! lol!!

trouble is, everywhere else ( apart from america) a thicko gets fried, it's good riddance. here, it's who can we sue.

 

[Engineer54]

It's never been a problem in Europe, or anywhere else come to that!! ...lol!! I must admit when i first started working overseas, i had the same thoughts as many here have. Over the years though, i have come to the conclusion that the draconian bathroom stipulations in the UK have always been way OTT, and are just not warranted. The Yanks and many European countries have allowed a socket outlet in a bathroom even before RCD protection became the norm... If there had been that many accidents (and certainly fatal accidents) legislation would have been put in force to the same sort of level the UK has had for donkey's years!!

All that has always happened in the UK, is that when an electrical appliance was needed in the bathroom say for a hairdryer and the like, then an extension lead is brought into the bathroom. ...Been going on for years!! How much safer would it be to have a sensibly positioned 10mA protected outlet in the bathroom?? lol!!

 

[telectrix]

can't have common sense overriding the BS7671. bloody 'ell . that could put some suits on the dole.

 

[Adam W]

trouble is, everywhere else ( apart from america) a thicko gets fried, it's good riddance. here, it's who can we sue.

The Americans actually use the same method, ie 10mA rcd (or "GFCI receptacle" as they call it) while we have to use special separated socket outlets.
I don't see a problem with putting a washing machine in a bathroom, but I think it needs to be rcd protected and the socket not readily accessible, preferably using a FCU instead.

 

[Engineer54]

The Americans actually use the same method, ie 10mA rcd (or "GFCI receptacle" as they call it) while we have to use special separated socket outlets.
I don't see a problem with putting a washing machine in a bathroom, but I think it needs to be rcd protected and the socket not readily accessible, preferably using a FCU instead.

They use 6mA GFCI's and/or GFCI socket outlets ( sorry , ...receptacles) in the States...

 

[Ducksy]

The one who'd rest the 3 bar leccy fire on the edge of the kiddies bath as its cold in there.

Thicko: "that's strange wonder why there's no socket on the bathroom...... I know extension lead"

 

[Adam W]

They use 6mA GFCI's and/or GFCI socket outlets ( sorry , ...receptacles) in the States...

Ah yes, 4-6mA. I stand corrected.

 

[Jackall]

Yes, the cupboard is already there (and with doors) but is within 3m of the bath, so I assume (looking at the relevant diagram showing a bathroom with a partition) that sockets are a no-no. There are already 2 FCUs in there (for the hot-air dryer and shaving socket/light) and I was going to spur off one of them for the washing machine. In the end, I think the lack of any RCD protection in the whole electrical system, and the even slight possibility of something going wrong even with an RCD-protected FCU - not so much electric shock, but mainly to do with whether the circuit could take the load if the dryer and shaver unit were also used at the same time for some reason - means that I don't want to take the risk, especially as I don't think it's worth paying for a LABC inspection or for an electrician to come round for such a relatively small job in the end. Unless he/she tries to persuade me to update the consumer unit, etc! Worth it, especially in the long run, I suppose, but at the moment...:juggle:

 

[jamsey]

I recently pat tested a holiday house in deepest darkest cornwall (near where they sacrifice chickens on Wednesdays) and found a washing machine in a bathroom but plugged in with the cable going through the wall into a socket, was a bit curious so asked to see the fuse board, there was no RCD and reviewable fuses I just pat tested it then informed the customer she needed a new c/u with rcd's and that the washing machine failed the pat test probably due the the back of it had rotted away and must not be in the bathroom regardless of what the installation man had said...

 

[jamsey]

I did all that with my iPhone just read it back and makes no sense but you get my drift, if not just sacrifice a chicken and see what happens lol

 

[oldtimer]

The one who'd rest the 3 bar leccy fire on the edge of the kiddies bath as its cold in there.

Thicko: "that's strange wonder why there's no socket on the bathroom...... I know extension lead"

2 years ago a Romanian in Glasgow did this killing his 29 year old wife and 6 month baby so as far as I am concerned thats why we in this country are conditioned not to have power in the bathroom and I am getting Bl00dy sick of hearing "yes but in my country"

 

[DPG]

I recently pat tested a holiday house in deepest darkest cornwall (near where they sacrifice chickens on Wednesdays) and found a washing machine in a bathroom but plugged in with the cable going through the wall into a socket, was a bit curious so asked to see the fuse board, there was no RCD and reviewable fuses I just pat tested it then informed the customer she needed a new c/u with rcd's and that the washing machine failed the pat test probably due the the back of it had rotted away and must not be in the bathroom regardless of what the installation man had said...

Definitely needs a whole new consumer unit? Daz

 

[Adam W]

I recently pat tested a holiday house in deepest darkest cornwall (near where they sacrifice chickens on Wednesdays) and found a washing machine in a bathroom but plugged in with the cable going through the wall into a socket, was a bit curious so asked to see the fuse board, there was no RCD and reviewable fuses I just pat tested it then informed the customer she needed a new c/u with rcd's and that the washing machine failed the pat test probably due the the back of it had rotted away and must not be in the bathroom regardless of what the installation man had said...

You can have a washing machine in a bathroom if certain criteria are met. I don't have my book to hand but there is a reg on it.

 

[trev]

2 years ago a Romanian in Glasgow did this killing his 29 year old wife and 6 month baby so as far as I am concerned thats why we in this country are conditioned not to have power in the bathroom and I am getting Bl00dy sick of hearing "yes but in my country"

I got asked to strip some stuff out of a bathroom for a landlord his tenant hit me with that when I told him I was not prepared to install a socket in there

 

[odawire]

Yes, the cupboard is already there (and with doors) but is within 3m of the bath, so I assume (looking at the relevant diagram showing a bathroom with a partition) that sockets are a no-no. There are already 2 FCUs in there (for the hot-air dryer and shaving socket/light) and I was going to spur off one of them for the washing machine. In the end, I think the lack of any RCD protection in the whole electrical system, and the even slight possibility of something going wrong even with an RCD-protected FCU - not so much electric shock, but mainly to do with whether the circuit could take the load if the dryer and shaver unit were also used at the same time for some reason - means that I don't want to take the risk, especially as I don't think it's worth paying for a LABC inspection or for an electrician to come round for such a relatively small job in the end. Unless he/she tries to persuade me to update the consumer unit, etc! Worth it, especially in the long run, I suppose, but at the moment...:juggle:

The 3 metre rule is irrelevant because its not in the same room, as is the need for rcd protection for the same reason.

 

[Outspoken]

OK so I'm new here, but why are people banging on about what the Johnny Foreigners do in their home nation, we are in the UK not the USA or, god forbid, France. We have the lowest electrical death rates per head of population in the developed world, we may bemoan the regs at times, but they were written the way they are because most people are thick and simply ignore common sense when it comes to the electricity in their homes.

Sockets in normal sized bathrooms is a stupid idea, washing machines or other white goods is equally stupid, but if you are going to be stupid, put a RCD on the thing at least and show some common sense.

 

[telectrix]

put a RCD on the thing at least and show some common sense.


band -aid on a severed limb, there. lost count of the number of RCDs that have faied to trip on test, but then press the magic button that the customer has never used and, presto, RCD works a treat then.