Warning : Rant.

[Guitarist]

I still come across insurance documents stating that a current EICR must be in place, completed by someone registered with the NICEIC. Guess there are many jobsworths in offices without a clue...

 

[Geordie Spark]

I still come across insurance documents stating that a current EICR must be in place, completed by someone registered with the NICEIC. Guess there are many jobsworths in offices without a clue...

That's why they're tucked away in offices out of harms way.

 

[trev]

That's why they're tucked away in offices out of harms way.

That's just the thing, they aren't out of harms way, they cause havoc with their ridiculous edicts which are issued in a manner to make you think that they have papal authority (Not that the pope has any authority in my world)

 

[edrobbo8]

Had a run in with the local authority housing dept today (Scotland), according to their latest Diktat ONLY and I mean ONLY NICEIC members are allowed to do work on council houses, anyone else's work will be "ripped out if we don't get NICEIC branded paperwork", when I challenged it and pointed out that as long as it was done to BS7671:2008 addendum 1 (haven't issued 2 yet have they?) then it shouldn't matter which notification body if any is involved and that the work in question isn't covered by the building regs in Scotland anyway, therefore NOT notifiable to building control. The next excuse...."Elf n Safety"....when I pointed out again that "Elf n Safety" had nothing to do with it, I get "but its got EVERYTHING to do with it"...and the "powers that be set the rules"..I then hung up
Phoned my local Councillor later, who pretty much agreed with me especially when I pointed out that no matter what NICEIC say, they are NOT the electrical equivalent of Corgi / gassafe (well not yet anyway, though wouldn't put it past them to lobby for it) and reckons who the person I spoke with is "a total jobsworth" who "doesn't ever challenge anything he is told" (then again quite a few of them down there think they know it all, but frankly would struggle to find the correct end of a screwdriver.....one female inspector turned up to a house that was a building site in stilletos and dress clothing...even after being told the place was a building site due to the ceiling falling apart). The rules in question he reckons were likely done due to someone phoning property or a similar department and asking a question out of context and then sticking it down in the rules.
Said he will chase it up and get things reworded (I would be happy with "To be done to the current edition of the wiring regulations BS7671 and any other relevant british standard, the following works however MUST be notified to building control or NICEIC/NAPIT/SELECT etc: --- ---), though it might run and run.....though did admit he likely could get an answer quicker than I likely would and felt there should be room for commonsense interpretation, especially when I said I'd be more than willing to have building control out to look over my work if they had any doubts (I've got nothing to hide) and I felt it wasn't right that sparks who refuse to pay notification scheme fees are being blocked from work, despite membership of notification schemes not being a requirement, and the work not being notifiable to building control and that houses in the same street sold under right to buy do not have the same restrictions.....

Shouldn't NAPIT/ELECSA etc be lobbying with the various insurance underwriters etc who stipulate that the work must be done by NICEIC registered company?

What else does our £400+ go to each year?!

 

[trev]

Shouldn't NAPIT/ELECSA etc be lobbying with the various insurance underwriters etc who stipulate that the work must be done by NICEIC registered company?

What else does our £400+ go to each year?!

Elecsa don't care because they're going to merge with the NIC and together they'll put all the other CPS operators out of business. That's my prediction anyway, I hope I'm wrong. After they have become the one true CPS operator I expect them to start fielding candidates in election for everything from Best Tea Maker all the way to pope.

 

[overskilled]

or bring out a scheme called SafeSpark or something equally official sounding to convince joe public that the only decent electricians are on THEIR scheme, which you can join for the modest sum of £5K upfront and 1/2 your turnover.....
Shouldn't suggest that.....SJIB may decide it sounds like a brilliant idea....

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Shouldn't NAPIT/ELECSA etc be lobbying with the various insurance underwriters etc who stipulate that the work must be done by NICEIC registered company?

What else does our £400+ go to each year?!

it goes towards a fat pension, the latest Range Rover, a new Breiting watch and 4 skiing holidays in Canada-eh hem I mean conferences.