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[GLENNSPARK]

I don't have the 2391 but have got the 2394 and passed that first time and am doing my 2395 next month.

Ill be honest though I did think the 2394 was pretty easy and can't see what the fuss is. I hear the 95 is a little more tricky but will see what happens.

whats this 2395?

is that the theory bit?

 

[Andrewr3]

Post 12 about the elastic band was a joke....

Oh, was it. I better take that elastic band out of my tool box then.

 

[uksparks]

I'm guessing that was said with an element of sarcasm maybe as you would know the answer.

2394 is inspection and testing
2395 is period inspection and testing

i still did the online exam and got 98% in that and did the written exam.

 

[uksparks]

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Oh, was it. I better take that elastic band out of my tool box then.

Nice, it's about time you fixed that!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I'm guessing that was said with an element of sarcasm maybe as you would know the answer.

2394 is inspection and testing
2395 is period inspection and testing

i still did the online exam and got 98% in that and did the written exam.

so..is this 2395 the replacement for the 2391?

 

[uksparks]

Stop pulling my leg.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

no really...

when i did it ...it was the 2391...split into a practical..and a written assessment closed book....

 

[Badged01]

so..is this 2395 the replacement for the 2391?

Not quite. Because the 'modern' electrician isnt as highly trained as the 'older' generation electrician (and being a politically correct society in which no-one fails) they split the 2391 into two to make it easier to pass.

2394 is the hold your hand thro' having a quick looksie at the electrics and 2395 is letting you do a little bit on your own.

Though of course I could be totally wrong ........

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Not quite. Because the 'modern' electrician isnt as highly trained as the 'older' generation electrician (and being a politically correct society in which no-one fails) they split the 2391 into two to make it easier to pass.

2394 is the hold your hand thro' having a quick looksie at the electrics and 2395 is letting you do a little bit on your own.

Though of course I could be totally wrong ........

so..one is the 2392...and the other is the 2391?

 

[Badged01]

so..one is the 2392...and the other is the 2391?

Nope, the old 2392 (fundemental insp & testing) has disappeared and become part of 2394 -- hence a holding your hand qualification!

And the old 2391-20 (design and verification) which was a L3 qual is now replaced with a new L4 qual for the same theory. So in line with improving educational standards the 'newer' electrician can claim hes at L4 standard for designing whilst the old sweats are only L3 for the same.

Do you think Im becoming a cynical old git?

 

[Brightspark2]

so..one is the 2392...and the other is the 2391?

Apparently it's been made easier to pass...

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Apparently it's been made easier to pass...

hmm...

i always had the old 2391 as a `benchmark`...that is to say it was always aimed at those that were already conducting inspection & testing...on a daily basis...and applying BS7671..and thus the EAWR to their activities....

so if its another one that`s been `dumbed down`....well......

 

[uksparks]

Your wrong, 2392 is so easy it's pointless even doing it.

2394 and 2395 are the two bits of the 2391.

2394 is initial verification inspection and testing only. Closed book written exam and online multi choice, plus practical involving full initial verification on two boards, three phase and a single phase, motor starters etc and carious other things. Plus there's more practical bits you do too.

2395 is périodicité inspecition and testing only. And there's a written exam and multi choice too.

you cannot do a 2391 now so the only option is 2394 and 2395, both if which you can have standalone but to make it the equivalent if the old 2391 you need to have done both.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Mr Skelton's done both (2391 and the new pair) and said on another thread that he thought the new pair were harder.

 

[uksparks]

2392 is nothing to do with 2394, it's just a level 2 version of 2394.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Your wrong, 2392 is so easy it's pointless even doing it.

2394 and 2395 are the two bits of the 2391.

2394 is initial verification inspection and testing only. Closed book written exam and online multi choice, plus practical involving full initial verification on two boards, three phase and a single phase, motor starters etc and carious other things. Plus there's more practical bits you do too.

2395 is périodicité inspecition and testing only. And there's a written exam and multi choice too.

you cannot do a 2391 now so the only option is 2394 and 2395, both if which you can have standalone but to make it the equivalent if the old 2391 you need to have done both.

thats what i was looking for...i just wanted to know which numbers had replaced what...

so you get both the 2394 & 2395...and thats the equivelent of 2391...OK..thats good..

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Mr Skelton's done both (2391 and the new pair) and said on another thread that he thought the new pair were harder.

if its essentially the same qual..then i dont see the point...its upto Damian mind you what he does....

 

[uksparks]

Mr Skelton's done both (2391 and the new pair) and said on another thread that he thought the new pair were harder.

I don't know about how hard the 2391 was but to me I found the 2394 rather easy and straight forward. I just applied what I did in a daily basis and it went fine.

 

[Badged01]

2394 is initial verification inspection and testing only. Closed book written exam and online multi choice .....

2395 is périodicité inspecition and testing only. And there's a written exam and multi choice too.

What! They're giving you the answers to choose from ..... dont tell me one is highlighted in bold incase you arent sure!!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

What! They're giving you the answers to choose from ..... dont tell me one is highlighted in bold incase you arent sure!!

i think he said theres some kind of written one as well...but is it open or closed book?

 

[Brightspark2]

Mr Skelton's done both (2391 and the new pair) and said on another thread that he thought the new pair were harder.

It was a tutor who said it's now easier to pass...

A tutor who does the courses that is...

 

[uksparks]

This is a wind up I bet your sitting there giggling.

yes 94 and 95 both have a closed book written exam

 

[KAS1]

closed book..............

 

[Badged01]

This is a wind up I bet your sitting there giggling. yes 94 and 95 both have a closed book written exam

One exam is now two exams ... and each exam is 1/2 multiple guess?!?!

 

[uksparks]

No that's not right.

each qualification be it 2394 or 2495 had a practical, multiple choice and a closed book written exam

 

[GLENNSPARK]

No that's not right.

each qualification be it 2394 or 2495 had a practical, multiple choice and a closed book written exam

so the 2394 is a written exam with open book

the 2395 is a practical exam?

 

[uksparks]

Oh Im done with this thread! I bet your in stitches rolling round in the floor!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Oh Im done with this thread! I bet your in stitches rolling round in the floor!

so you covered non-conducting locations then.

was that on the 2394...or the 2395?

did you get that in the written exam?..

or is it on line for that part of the course?

 

[Andrewr3]

Oh Im done with this thread! I bet your in stitches rolling round in the floor!

I started this thread just so those having a quiet Sunday could have something to think about! It appears to have done that. Back earning money tomorrow all.

Thank you

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Andrewr3 you have a woodburner so you are a fine fellow

 

[Badged01]

Andrewr3 you have a woodburner so you are a fine fellow

Must mean me too then :smile5: Got two of them wood burning damn things in my Spanish residence, and I use olive wood (from the old orchard trees) and it burns might fine and warm at night!

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Olive wood... Cool, new one on me!

 

[Badged01]

Get it to the right humidity level (easy in the sun) and it gives off lots of heat and burns a long time ..... a couple of logs bunged on the burner before bed and the ashes are there in the morning ready to start again!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Andrewr3 you have a woodburner so you are a fine fellow

OOhh....its the woodburners `sub club`

over here for village people folks.....

 

[JD6400]

OOhh....its the woodburners `sub club`

over here for village people folks.....

It's the new 3000 club !
Get that Rayburn up and running , and we way let you in .:sifone:

 

[R G]

OOhh....its the woodburners `sub club`

over here for village people folks.....

Have you ever seen Norm on the New Yankee workshop with the checked shirts and beard , well thats how it is in the club,,,haha..

 

[JD6400]

Surely you have switched a breaker on and its popped? You know, when someone rings you and says the breaker wont go on, so you go and have a look and switch it and it flicks off...


Personally I prefer to at least give the circuit a bit of a check over before just banging it back on in the blind hope of possibly not killing my client or one of their family after I leave , in the event of the mcb tripping mechanism having failed under the last overload !?:speechless:


Edit ; I may have been a little forward with this post , but you go from this in # 43 to saying how easy it was to pass a qualification in # 50 and again in # 68 which was once regarded as a reasonable benchmark for the level of knowledge , one held in this industry .

Not much in the way of inspection and testing going on with that method of fault finding is there !?

 

[trev]

Post 12 about the elastic band was a joke....

I knew that, someone else didn't obviously

 

[guest119]

Isnt an Olive wood what Popeye gets?

Boydy

 

[Badged01]

Have you ever seen Norm on the New Yankee workshop with the checked shirts and beard , well thats how it is in the club,,,haha..

Very perceptive, Ive been wearing the checked & padded shirts for years (I always thought them fashionable?!?) and I've started growing the beard in the last year. The local barmaid loves to plait it whilst I have a pint and play a bit of bingo --- eyes down, look in

 

[Badged01]

Isnt an Olive wood what Popeye gets?

That could definitely bring a tear to his eyes if used incorrectly!