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James · Jan 29, 2023

nicebutdim said:
Enclosed within the rose and accessible. While not the most elegant of solutions, were any regulations breached?

I don’t think anyone was suggesting it was in breach or even dangerous.
but you have to admit it was a sh!t job.

nicebutdim · Jan 29, 2023

James said:
I don’t think anyone was suggesting it was in breach or even dangerous.
but you have to admit it was a sh!t job.

It was a question, rather than a statement. Thought there may have been something I'd missed.

Mike Johnson · Jan 29, 2023

James said:
I don’t think anyone was suggesting it was in breach or even dangerous.
but you have to admit it was a sh!t job.

Don't think Wago's where available when the red and black T&E was installed, but obviously worked on since then, the drop to the light fitting is so short they could have used two blue cables instead of a bit of T&E, keeping the earth.

Raptor0014 · Jan 30, 2023

nicebutdim said:
Enclosed within the rose and accessible. While not the most elegant of solutions, were any regulations breached?

No, I was just amused at why they’d added in the additional cable and connector blocks. I’m guessing a different light was up there at one point given the cut in the plasterboard too.

Mike Johnson · Jan 30, 2023

Raptor0014 said:
No, I was just amused at why they’d added in the additional cable and connector blocks. I’m guessing a different light was up there at one point given the cut in the plasterboard too.

Perhaps insufficient terminals in the replacement light, unlike a rose.

Dustydazzler · Jan 30, 2023

You often see this where people have tried to fit an Ikea or John Lewis light that comes with a tiny crappy connector block just big enough to accept 1 x 1mm cable in each connector

lozarus · Jan 30, 2023

Dustydazzler said:
You often see this where people have tried to fit an Ikea or John Lewis light that comes with a tiny crappy connector block just big enough to accept 1 x 1mm cable in each connector

Did two of these recently. Amazing they're all stamped with thag "game changing" UK CA mark. The ones I did were the best part of £300, had those stupid connectors, were designed as Class 2 (somehow) and obviously had no way of connecting 3 plate wiring or even anywhere to park the earth.

timhoward · Jan 30, 2023

Top marks for effort....

timhoward · Jan 30, 2023

The label is correct

Dave OCD · Jan 30, 2023

nicebutdim said:
Enclosed within the rose and accessible. While not the most elegant of solutions, were any regulations breached?

A bit pointless leaving the inch and a half of of outer sheath really.

timhoward · Jan 30, 2023

nicebutdim said:
Enclosed within the rose and accessible. While not the most elegant of solutions, were any regulations breached?

If one were to be ultra-pedantic (not that any of us ever do that of course) then the bit arrowed should be sleeved with LED tape lights that alternate between brown and red.

brianmoooore · Feb 1, 2023

This would have looked a lot neater if the four pieces of connector strip had been left joined together, and the wire lengths trimmed to suit.

littlespark · Feb 1, 2023

Doo-doo-doo-doo..... The twilight zone!
Where messages just disappear!

One of those days when i wish i'd taken a photo.
Old fluorescent in a kitchen to take down.... Had a red into live, another red into neutral and 2 x normal sleeved cpc.

Up into the attic to see what was going on.... The 2 reds were from 2 x 3core & earth, the yellows connected together, the blues connected together... not in a box.

2 way switching.

Its getting rewired anyway, so will not be staying like this.

Dave OCD · Feb 1, 2023

Going by that method and the description one of the reds would have been permanent live and the other switched live so no neutral at the light fitting ??

littlespark · Feb 1, 2023

No, it was a neutral. Light worked fine.

L&N feed to one 2way switch. L to common, Y and B of the 3 core to L1 and L2.
Y and B linked through at light to other switch, Red coming back from second switch stops at light as switch wire, other red from first switch is neutral from light back to feed neutral.

Dave OCD · Feb 1, 2023

Ah ok got it, you'd think they'd have sleeved that red neutral black eh !

Darkwood · Feb 3, 2023

A bit of insulation tape and some connectors and we are back on, I get my ethics from Dave the Rave Pheonix Nights.

ipf · Feb 3, 2023

Thicko's don't know how to get to a fuse terminal in an old MEM Exel DB.
RFC needed isolating.
Three phase supply installed, by them, from right hand side fuses but had to do a bit of circuit shuffling. RFC moved to top left to accommodate. All red fuse guards broken off to get at the terms.
Obviously incapable of working out how to remove them.

No sign of any alterations to schedule.

PS. Not the first time I've come across this, by the way.

mainline · Feb 6, 2023

Manager says we had a pir on one of the cottages and Sparky man says that the sub main hasn't an isolator, can you sort one out.

It's fed from here, another cottage next door.

A pair of 16mm t&e feeds 2 cottages from the henleys.
urmmmm i think it needs a bit more than an isolator.

LewisM · Feb 6, 2023

ipf said:
Thicko's don't know how to get to a fuse terminal in an old MEM Exel DB.
RFC needed isolating.
Three phase supply installed, by them, from right hand side fuses but had to do a bit of circuit shuffling. RFC moved to top left to accommodate. All red fuse guards broken off to get at the terms.
Obviously incapable of working out how to remove them.

No sign of any alterations to schedule.

PS. Not the first time I've come across this, by the way.

View attachment 105882

Ho do ou remove those fuse guards? only ones I have seen like that pull straight out or they are held in by a clip and a ph1 screw

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