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[shanky887614]

um no they do not, whats wrong with a 2 pronged voltage tester and a proving unit, okay thats it I'm off I canny take anymore here tonight.

have you worked in a hospital?

there are cables in the ceiling that could be fed from a floor above or below, boards on each.


HOW would YOU find them.

bearing in mind you dont know where it is fed from or where it goes.

 

[Delboybully]

It seems this thread of mine has caused some discussion amongst you all. The reason I posted this thread was that I wasnt 100% happy with the technical helpline response and I wanted to see how many of you with more experience and apprentice trained would of found yourself in my situation. It seems that high percentage of you would. I followed the safe isoaltion procedure of checking a board is isolated but it is clear this isnt enough.

The fact is the situation I found myself in shouldnt of happened- I made a mistake, end of, that wont happen again, A mistake that many would of made. The Elecsa technical helpline were very sympathetic as were a lot of you. I wish to thank all of you who were honest in that and supportive of me

I expected a bit more of a kicking that I received. One of the reasons I dont post very often is because of the Electrical Trainee bashing that goes on a lot on this forum. I am aware of the hatred of us 5WWs so please dont turn this into a Electrical Trainee bashing thread.

It has also been mentioned about whether I should have an apprentice, I shall start another thread on this in the next few days to see peoples opinions, likewise whether I should be doing small commercial jobs.

For the record I hold the 17th, 2392 and 2391 and some others I cant remember the numbers for.

I also hold the very difficult to pass PAT testing certificate (cant remeber the C&G number) but it was laughably easy to pass!

 

[MDJ]

have you worked in a hospital?

there are cables in the ceiling that could be fed from a floor above or below, boards on each.


HOW would YOU find them.

bearing in mind you dont know where it is fed from or where it goes.

once or twice yeah, and I still fail to see how a volt stick can help, I can rub it on my arm and it lights up like a christmas tree, totally crap testing equipment

 

[GLENNSPARK]

once or twice yeah, and I still fail to see how a volt stick can help, I can rub it on my arm and it lights up like a christmas tree, totally crap testing equipment

well judging by your avatar i`m not surprised...

 

[shanky887614]

well judging by your avatar i`m not surprised...

he is a monkey, he is used to playing with crap

 

[micknew]

well judging by your avatar i`m not surprised...

Priceless.

 

[jaypp]

once or twice yeah, and I still fail to see how a volt stick can help, I can rub it on my arm and it lights up like a christmas tree, totally crap testing equipment

can i employ you, your arms + voltstick towards end of december please? neighbours definately won't have that decoration!

 

[guest119]

We used them for stripping out redundant single cores in retail upgrades.

In a lighting circuit with a load on or plug the yellow tranny into a socket to apply a load then find the neutral.
Somebody at the trunking header or a few metres away can identify the feed ok with a voltstick but when the neutrals are not taped together you dont know which one you are looking for.
With a lighting or socket load on as above and all the neutrals lifted out of the trunking the one you need will light the voltstick when disconnected from the neutral bar.

Basic stuff really but saves a lot of time.

Boydy

 

[sparks1234]

Back in the day, I wished I had a volt stick, we stripped a house out, everything disconnected from the head, temp supply put on and off we went with our cutters, down in the basement 1 2-5 t & e was live, fed from next door, straight through the basement, god knows who put it in, made me jump though
Also had one last year in a warehouse, a double socket that was fed from next door, presumably the units had been linked at some stage.

 

[MDJ]

They are good for sticking in your shirt pocket next to the neon screwdriver, Mrs Jones and Mrs Smith down the road like to see a professional electrician turn up at their houses when the RCD trips out, the Volt stick looks the part haha

 

[shanky887614]

They are good for sticking in your shirt pocket next to the neon screwdriver, Mrs Jones and Mrs Smith down the road like to see a professional electrician turn up at their houses when the RCD trips out, the Volt stick looks the part haha

are you sure we are all talking about the same thing? the volt stick is for when you cant see where the cable comes from or goes to.

 

[MDJ]

are you sure we are all talking about the same thing? the volt stick is for when you cant see where the cable comes from or goes to.

yeah we are, they are totally useless thats my view, you can keep posting about how good you think they are all day, after 33 years in the trade I have learnt I just don't need them and can get by very easily without one. That said I have got 2, taped together in case one fails, I can't remember the last time I needed it, vertually extinct in my kit box.

 

[jaypp]

Back in the day, I wished I had a volt stick, we stripped a house out, everything disconnected from the head, temp supply put on and off we went with our cutters, down in the basement 1 2-5 t & e was live, fed from next door, straight through the basement, god knows who put it in, made me jump though
Also had one last year in a warehouse, a double socket that was fed from next door, presumably the units had been linked at some stage.

of course, when we are 'sure' a premises is isolated, we check every cable before cutting it! i do use a voltstick. latest one about a year old and so far it's cost me £40- a tenner plus £30 to replace my ck cutters! i definately put more faith in insulated tools and 'care' than the stick! however, would be lost without it

 

[jaypp]

They are good for sticking in your shirt pocket next to the neon screwdriver, Mrs Jones and Mrs Smith down the road like to see a professional electrician turn up at their houses when the RCD trips out, the Volt stick looks the part haha

shirt WITH pocket to work eh?! nah, you don't need voltstick to look good!!!