Boiler FCU location

[marshr02]

Looking for advice. Boiler is in locked cupboard in bathroom, outside Zone 2. Not sure on siting of FCU. I know it's commonly put inside the boiler cupboard, but what if the boiler needs to be turned off in emergency? I have the option of putting the FCU on the wall nearby - again outside Zone 2, and well away from any splashes. Any thoughts? cheers

 

[telectrix]

outside zones is fine for a FCU.

 

[marshr02]

Thanks for reply. My question was should the FCU be inside the locked boiler cupboard or outside on the wall. Both situations are outside the zones. Cheers

 

[Geordie Spark]

Yes !!

 

[marshr02]

Yes !!

Yes to what.....

 

[Geordie Spark]

Yes to what.....

To your question.

Tel gave you the answer .. either location is acceptable.

You're the bloke on site looking at the job so you decide which of the two suitable locations you prefer.

Personally, I wouldn't have a boiler behind a locked door in the first place, but that would be my choice. If the reason for it being behind a locked door is to keep it safe from kids meddling with it I would be educating the kids first & foremost. A clip around the lugs usually suffices.

 

[marshr02]

To your question.

Tel gave you the answer .. either location is acceptable.

You're the bloke on site looking at the job so you decide which of the two suitable locations you prefer.

Personally, I wouldn't have a boiler behind a locked door in the first place, but that would be my choice. If the reason for it being behind a locked door is to keep it safe from kids meddling with it I would be educating the kids first & foremost. A clip around the lugs usually suffices.

Thanks for reply. Hey, I've got no problems making a decision on the two locations, just thought I would go to the forum for a discussion, in order to see if there was a consensus. Personally it seems to me all boilers should have a means of emergency isolation within quick and easy reach. The boiler in a locked cupboard is becuase, while being outside Zone 2 it's quite near to the sink, and liable to be operated by wet hands - which I think should be discouraged.

 

[telectrix]

could use the boiler as a hand dryer. it's probably just as good as the crap they fit in the bogs at pubs. by the time your hands are dry, you need to pi$$ again.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Thanks for reply. Hey, I've got no problems making a decision on the two locations, just thought I would go to the forum for a discussion, in order to see if there was a consensus. Personally it seems to me all boilers should have a means of emergency isolation within quick and easy reach. The boiler in a locked cupboard is becuase, while being outside Zone 2 it's quite near to the sink, and liable to be operated by wet hands - which I think should be discouraged.

Is the washing machine and dishwasher under the kitchen sink behind a locked door ?? .. and let's not forget the tumble dryer .............

 

[marshr02]

sink...meant basin....

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Ta-rah.

 

[telectrix]

Is the washing machine and dishwasher under the kitchen sink behind a locked door ?? .. and let's not forget the tumble dryer .............

mrs.tel won't fit under the sink.

 

[Geordie Spark]

sink...meant basin....

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Ta-rah.

Ta-rah.

Mind the door doesn't clash your arse on the way out.

 

[Andy78]

sink...meant basin....

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Ta-rah.

Fixed your post for you kidda :smilewinkgrin:

Yawn 1) Lazy man with poor knowledge of bathroom zones who can't be bothered to open OSG or regs posts question
2) Gets answer to question in first reply
3) Demands that forum give him a decision about a job they haven't seen because he lacks the common sense to do so himself
4) Is informed he has been given the best answer already
5) OP has a complete sense of humour failure
6) Throws rattle out of pram and makes out the forum is at fault for his lack of common sense and gratitude.

 

[Octopus]

Why is the boiler cupboard locked?

 

[Geordie Spark]

Fixed your post for you kidda :smilewinkgrin: Yawn 1) Lazy man with poor knowledge of bathroom zones who can't be bothered to open OSG or regs posts question 2) Gets answer to question in first reply 3) Demands that forum give him a decision about a job they haven't seen because he lacks the common sense to do so himself 4) Is informed he has been given the best answer already 5) OP has a complete sense of humour failure 6) Throws rattle out of pram and makes out the forum is at fault for his lack of common sense and gratitude.

Thank you


That was exactly my point.


You know, I'm beginning to think that there are a lot of so-called sparks who think the sole purpose of their heads is to keep their ears apart.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Why is the boiler cupboard locked?

To prevent the OP working on it?!

 

[Geordie Spark]

Why is the boiler cupboard locked?

Best not ask .. we're liable to get involved in a vicious chicken and egg or is it a vicious triangle situation that will run to anothe 76 posts.

 

[telectrix]

but if the plumber who fitted the boiler was locked in the cupboard with it as a CO detector ( like canaries used to be used in the mines), now that would be logical.

 

[Andy78]

Maybe his regs and OSG are locked in the cupboard.

 

[Geordie Spark]

but if the plumber who fitted the boiler was locked in the cupboard with it as a CO detector ( like canaries used to be used in the mines), now that would be logical.

What the hell would a Scouser know about the mines ??

You lot were all either dockers or dole scroungers. :stuart:

 

[Des 56]

Thanks for reply. Hey, I've got no problems making a decision on the two locations, just thought I would go to the forum for a discussion, in order to see if there was a consensus. Personally it seems to me all boilers should have a means of emergency isolation within quick and easy reach. The boiler in a locked cupboard is becuase, while being outside Zone 2 it's quite near to the sink, and liable to be operated by wet hands - which I think should be discouraged.

This was going to be a question,but in view of the departure of the serious one. and with the silly tantrums in mind

What is this concern he has about emergency switching which prompted his question ?

If there was need for emergency switching,it would no doubt have a big red button on the front of the boiler

 

[Geordie Spark]

This was going to be a question,but in view of the departure of the serious one. and with the silly tantrums in mind

What is this concern he has about emergency switching which prompted his question ?

If there was need for emergency switching,it would no doubt have a big red button on the front of the boiler

........... and a red flashing strobe light to let you know when it's been activated.

 

[telectrix]

What the hell would a Scouser know about the mines ??

You lot were all either dockers or dole scroungers. :stuart:

just because we had no mines to nick coal from, we had the railway yard. that coal burnt just as well as the stuff you heathens nicked. :54:

 

[marshr02]

This was going to be a question,but in view of the departure of the serious one. and with the silly tantrums in mind

What is this concern he has about emergency switching which prompted his question ?

If there was need for emergency switching,it would no doubt have a big red button on the front of the boiler

Boiler is IPx4D meaning okay for Zone 2 without any cupboard, locked or otherwise...however other factors mean additional protection is desired. My question was relating to isolation in the event of problems, the analogy being a washing machine having an isolation switch above the worktop, to make up for the inaccessibility of the SO. Any knowledgeable replies gratefully received, but please make sure you've read the question properly this time

 

[Geordie Spark]

just because we had no mines to nick coal from, we had the railway yard. that coal burnt just as well as the stuff you heathens nicked. :54:

Lol ....... Just behind the house where I live now, there was a rope operated incline that took coal from the top of the hill down to the river to be put on ships for export.

This incline was self-activating meaning the weight of the loaded wagons coming down pulled the empty ones back up - and it was steep.

I was inevitable that accidents would happen and full wagons would run away, capsize and scatter their load all over the shop and whenever id did a whole tribe of Geordie lasses ( the gadgees were all at work ) would descend on the wreckage armed with buckets and shovels before the dust had a chance to settle.

By the time the breakdown crew arrived on the scene all they had to deal with was an empty wagon or three.

As kids, that wagon way was our playground and we had to be bloody careful not to get caught in the rope or be run down as you couldn't hear these wagons approaching. some women were killed over the years when their dresses / skirts got caught in the moving rope as they were crossing the line.

With all the Health & Safety nonsense we have now that line would never have been built.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Boiler is IPx4D meaning okay for Zone 2 without any cupboard, locked or otherwise...however other factors mean additional protection is desired. My question was relating to isolation in the event of problems, the analogy being a washing machine having an isolation switch above the worktop, to make up for the inaccessibility of the SO. Any knowledgeable replies gratefully received, but please make sure you've read the question properly this time

So you're going to have an isolator to switch the boiler off in an emergency and you're asking if you should fit it on a wall or lock it inside a locked cupboard?? .. Really??

Would you lock - say - a fire extinguisher in a cupboard??

What is your definition of the word "emergency"?

Something that needs to be addressed immediately? Tomorrow will do?? ........... or we'll be back to see to it next Michaelmass Wednesday??

My definition is "something that needs to be addressed immediately" so I am NOT going to fart about with locked cupboard doors !!

 

[Des 56]

We had the pit in the valley,the village half way up the mountain and the tip up the top
The buckets we called them,were the same as Geordie described,but these were overhead

We used to ride them as kids when they reached the tip,perhaps at times 200 or so feet up hanging from the handle on the side
We had concerns about them tipping their load,one old dear triggered the bucket to pinch the coal as was usual,the slag tipped on her,she died on the tip,battered and broken,it was a sorry sight

It didn't stop the gatherers,they would sell the coal by the bag fulfilling their regular order books

 

[Geordie Spark]

We had the pit in the valley,the village half way up the mountain and the tip up the top
The buckets we called them,were the same as Geordie described,but these were overhead

We used to ride them as kids when they reached the tip,perhaps at times 200 or so feet up hanging from the handle on the side
We had concerns about them tipping their load,one old dear triggered the bucket to pinch the coal as was usual,the slag tipped on her,she died on the tip,battered and broken,it was a sorry sight

It didn't stop the gatherers,they would sell the coal by the bag fulfilling their regular order books

We had them here as well. I think they were at Horden or thereabouts - down the coast a bit towards Teesside. You can see them in the film Get Carter at the very end.

We couldn't work-out how he ( Carter ) managed to walk straight over from the staiths at Blyth to this overhead thing as they must have been about 50 miles apart !!

Both the staiths and the overhead thing have long gone.

 

[Deleted member 72666]

Hey Geordie! You're on fire today, been on the red bull?

 

[telectrix]

more likely the blue star.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Hey Geordie! You're on fire today, been on the red bull?

Haha .......... No Stan.

To be honest I'm ill.

I was at the docs this morning with a raging temperature ringing in my ears, bloodshot eyes and I kept losing my balance & falling down. He's diagnosed a nasty sort of ear infection & given be tablets & stuff.

He tested me for dementia as well as I'm at the age when it kicks in, but so far I'm ok. ... Others may not agree though!!

Feeling a bit better now though.

Downside is he told me I mustn't drive and just last week I got myself a gorgeous MR2 and I want to go out & play with it.

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more likely the blue star.

Can't drink Tel ... on meds just now.

 

[telectrix]

you mean you've got a MR2 that works??????

 

[Geordie Spark]

you mean you've got a MR2 that works??????

I have now!!

One of the very last that was made.

Got it from Nottingham and Tidyboiler took me to collect it. We had fun driving back - me in the MR2 & her in her Mini Cooper. Hooligans we were !!

Still looking to get the V6 one fixed though.

 

[Guest55]

This was going to be a question,but in view of the departure of the serious one. and with the silly tantrums in mind

What is this concern he has about emergency switching which prompted his question ?

If there was need for emergency switching,it would no doubt have a big red button on the front of the boiler

nail .....on ..........head.

emergency isolation is required for moving machinery that can cause harm during normal operation , eg - conveyor belt.

there is absolutely nothing you'll find in a domestic that reqs emerg isolation.

 

[hasel5]

I normally have chilled bog roll to hand in the bathroom to cope with emergencies after a friday night blow out

 

[telectrix]

up here, we're a bit more civilised. we crap in the toilet, not the bathroom.

 

[Geordie Spark]

up here, we're a bit more civilised. we crap in the toilet, not the bathroom.

And here we keep the coal in our baths.

 

[hasel5]

Of course you still have a outside crapper and a bath in front of fire lol

 

[electrician4u]

sink...meant basin....

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Yawn.... 1) Question put on forum for advice. 2) One line silly answers. 3) Polite reply to delve further. 4) Met with 'you got your answer'. 5) Trolls then 'like' each others posting. 6) Finishing with 'jokey' posts. .....ZZzzzzzzzzzzz

Ta-rah.

yes, it's an unfortunate theme on many posts, usually with the same wannabe comedian sparks. fortunately you can block them to filter out the crap

 

[Andy78]

yes, it's an unfortunate theme on many posts, usually with the same wannabe comedian sparks. fortunately you can block them to filter out the crap

It's an even more common theme that people demand help, get it, don't like what they hear, start abusing the people that helped them, then storm off in a girly fit without thanking the forum members......... which is what happened in this case.