Certifying other peoples work.

[Sav]

Morning everyone,

Hope you are all well.

just a quick question. I've been asked to issue a domestic electrical installation certificate for a rewire at a property. That's fine, as I now understand that we can issue a certificate based on testing only.
The thing is, I still believe that we have a duty of care even when the install is not carried out by ourselves.
E.g no IP rated lights in bathroom, no fire rated down lights anywhere in the house, connector blocks used and exposed, no smoke alarms, no continuous earthing in lighting, to name but a few problems !

I've told the builder that I cannot issue a certificate based on this kind of poor installation, he says that it's non of my business how it's rewired or installed , I'm only issuing the certificate !!
I am doing the right thing ? I don't think that even though we are issuing a certificate based on a new install, we should ignore potential hazards or poor workmanship.

Thanks and regards,

Sav

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Theres nowt like scummy F-ing builders eh ...

its like any trade....good n bad everywhere...

but he has obviously done it himself....

so was he competent?....

clearly not...

 

[shanky887614]

its like any trade....good n bad everywhere...

but he has obviously done it himself....

so was he competent?....

clearly not...

Your right there, I know a couple builders that will help, one of them is quicker than a couple sparks I know and there terminations are tight and its neat!!!

 

[Meggerman]

Thank you all for your positive responses.
I actually did tell him he is a 2 bob, packed my tester and walked away. I also wrote a formal letter to the home owner advising them of the faults I uncovered.
I'll let you know the response from the home owner.
Thanks once again.

Sav

Very sensible mate. What a bloody cheek to say it's none of your business how it is done, it is totally your business. Don't do EICR for him either, he wont want to pay for it unless it is satisfactory, which is clearly is no where near. Hate cheapskate builders. Inform build control that there is a non notified, non compliant job, installed by unqualified, unregistered persons and that it has been energised. I have found Build Control take interest when they can issue fines.

 

[shanky887614]

Very sensible mate. What a bloody cheek to say it's none of your business how it is done, it is totally your business. Don't do EICR for him either, he wont want to pay for it unless it is satisfactory, which is clearly is no where near. Hate cheapskate builders. Inform build control that there is a non notified, non compliant job, installed by unqualified, unregistered persons and that it has been energised. I have found Build Control take interest when they can issue fines.

go one better and issue a danger notice and send a copy to labc as well

 

[GLENNSPARK]

go one better and issue a danger notice and send a copy to labc as well

problem is if theres no immediate & present danger....then theres no standing for a danger notice....is there...

no CPC present/continuity is a 2 on class 1s

there may be a case for the exposed connections...but if they are above the ceiling then again it doesn`t quite warrent the danger notice...even though whats been done is a bunch of horse crap...

 

[sarky spark]

Also builders like this are doing sparks out of work.