UK Does this meet BS 7671/ Part P? Advice needed please!

[helpplease]

Hiya,

Our neighbour runs an unarmoured cable on our land where I park my car, buried about an inch under the soil. This is used to power their garage and EV charger.

They have said that they have attempted to comply with BS7671 as it is in a green plastic pipe that looks like a hosepipe. We are still concerned about the safety, particularly as I drive my car over it and it it outside our back gate, so also accessible to the public. I'm not an electrician so getting a bit confused, but everything I'm reading about BS7671 leads me to believe that this should be an SWA cable and buried deeper underground. Can anyone give me advice please?

 

[helpplease]

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[buzzlightyear]

That does not comply to the regs,
Cables should be between 500/600cm
If vehicle are run over it then it can short out the cable, you should ask them
For some paper work to see if it complys
Running over you land.regding swa
Either clipped or buried.

 

[helpplease]

That does not comply to the regs,
Cables should be between 500/600cm
If vehicle are run over it then it can short out the cable, you should ask them
For some paper work to see if it complys
Running over you land.regding swa
Either clipped or buried.

Thanks Buzz! There's definitely no easements or wayleaves for them to have it on our land. When we raised our concerns about it being slightly buried, they actually recommended that we uncover it with it just lying on the grass, which definitely doesn't seem right to me as it's a big trip hazard!

 

[Mike Johnson]

It's dangerous, and they have no right to run anything on your land, I suggest you politely ask them to remove it, where to is not your problem, it does beg the question why have they run the cable on your property and not their own?

 

[helpplease]

It's dangerous, and they have no right to run anything on your land, I suggest you politely ask them to remove it, where to is not your problem, it does beg the question why have they run the cable on your property and not their own?

We have already asked them to make it safe or reroute it, we might have to ask them just to remove it at this point as they're ignoring us now!

 

[James]

looks like a DIY bodge job.
at the end of the day nobody has a right to run services across your land without your permission.
is there a route they could take that does not have to pass over your land?

 

[littlespark]

Neighbours…. Everybody needs good neeeeeighbours


I know what I’d like to do… but I wouldn’t trust them to have the correct protective device at the supply end.

Whether it’s done right or not, if they don’t have permission, then it has to come out, no question.

At least your driveway will never freeze over… I can see that getting very warm when it’s being used.

 

[Jock from the north]

Neighbours…. Everybody needs good neeeeeighbours


I know what I’d like to do… but I wouldn’t trust them to have the correct protective device at the supply end.

Whether it’s done right or not, if they don’t have permission, then it has to come out, no question.

At least your driveway will never freeze over… I can see that getting very warm when it’s being used.

I know what I would do

 

[helpplease]

looks like a DIY bodge job.
at the end of the day nobody has a right to run services across your land without your permission.
is there a route they could take that does not have to pass over your land?

Yes there are a couple of different options, hopefully they'll see sense before we have to escalate!

 

[helpplease]

Neighbours…. Everybody needs good neeeeeighbours


I know what I’d like to do… but I wouldn’t trust them to have the correct protective device at the supply end.

Whether it’s done right or not, if they don’t have permission, then it has to come out, no question.

At least your driveway will never freeze over… I can see that getting very warm when it’s being used.

Hahaha, free outdoor heating, wonderful!

I think they believe if they just ignore us we'll forget about it and let them keep it there. Now I'm aware they weren't being honest about the safety of it, there's no chance!

 

[helpplease]

I know what I would do

I wish we'd done something more effective before speaking to them about it in the first place!

 

[Jock from the north]

I wish we'd done something more effective before speaking to them about it in the first place!

It's like being between a rock and a hard stone.you don't want to start a war with your neighbours but that to me is unacceptable, the cable has no protection ,May even not be rcd protected .I suppose if there ignoring you then you could phone your local council and voice your concerns .

 

[littlespark]

Just park right on top of it and it’ll eventually pop what we protective device they’ve used.

 

[James]

I wonder what would happen if you had a bonfire close to or over the cable?

 

[UNG]

If your neighbours have installed a 7Kw chargepoint and only "attempted" to meet the requiremets of BS7671 with that shoddy install I doubt they would have made the neccessary ENA application and got the DNO approval to install it

 

[Jock from the north]

Hiya,

Our neighbour runs an unarmoured cable on our land where I park my car, buried about an inch under the soil. This is used to power their garage and EV charger.

They have said that they have attempted to comply with BS7671 as it is in a green plastic pipe that looks like a hosepipe. We are still concerned about the safety, particularly as I drive my car over it and it it outside our back gate, so also accessible to the public. I'm not an electrician so getting a bit confused, but everything I'm reading about BS7671 leads me to believe that this should be an SWA cable and buried deeper underground. Can anyone give me advice please?

I wonder what would happen if you had a bonfire close to or over the cable?

Hiya,

Our neighbour runs an unarmoured cable on our land where I park my car, buried about an inch under the soil. This is used to power their garage and EV charger.

They have said that they have attempted to comply with BS7671 as it is in a green plastic pipe that looks like a hosepipe. We are still concerned about the safety, particularly as I drive my car over it and it it outside our back gate, so also accessible to the public. I'm not an electrician so getting a bit confused, but everything I'm reading about BS7671 leads me to believe that this should be an SWA cable and buried deeper underground. Can anyone give me advice please?

Can you ask them where they get this green plastic hose pipe I've got a swa to run in for a shed but that looks like it might be a cheaper option .sorry im just funning with you if it wasn't electricity and we were talking about something else I'd put a spade through it .don't do that though lol

 

[UNG]

Can you ask them where they get this green plastic hose pipe I've got a swa to run in for a shed but that looks like it might be a cheaper option .sorry im just funning with you if it wasn't electricity and we were talking about something else I'd put a spade through it .don't do that though lol

Why not put a spade through it

 

[Mike Johnson]

Not that I would condone damaging this illegal cable, but it may get caught on a rope tied on the back of your car and pulled out of the ground and the charge point and the consumer unit, now that would be inconvenient.

 

[Jock from the north]

Not that I would condone damaging this illegal cable, but it may get caught on a rope tied on the back of your car and pulled out of the ground and the charge point and the consumer unit, now that would be inconvenient.

That actually happened on a job .they were digging up the drive with a mini diger and pulled a swa cable for outside lights and sockets .it almost ripped the consumer unit off the wall

 

[Jock from the north]

Why not put a spade through it
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Is there wellies to go with that as well

 

[Mike Johnson]

That actually happened on a job .they were digging up the drive with a mini diger and pulled a swa cable for outside lights and sockets .it almost ripped the consumer unit off the wall

I have seen the same digger driver pull up an SWA supply to a tower crane that he installed the day before.

 

[Jock from the north]

I have seen the same digger driver pull up an SWA supply to a tower crane that he installed the day before.

Ouch bad day at the races.

 

[mainline]

Could always offer to re-route it for them, always nice to have a source of free electricity.

 

[DefyG]

they have attempted to comply with BS7671

It certainly doesn't sound their attempt was anywhere good enough, certainly doesn't comply with BS7671 nor likely to get a Part P Compliance certificate issued, nor perhaps ENA/DNO approval #16 (not for the installation but unlikely to have been applied for!).

 

[UNG]

Is there wellies to go with that as well

Why would you need wellies

 

[Jock from the north]

Why would you need wellies

Where would you be without your wellies

 

[Mike Johnson]

There is a joke in there to do with being Welsh and sheep, but I will resist.

 

[Moley]

Oi! We are not all like that. Only about 95% of us
Actually if it wasn't for your wellies you've be in the hospital or infirmary.
Okay, how many understand that?

 

[helpplease]

Thank you all for the great advice - and the laughs! This has been such a stressful situation so was in great need of both!

 

[mainline]

Oi! We are not all like that. Only about 95% of us
Actually if it wasn't for your wellies you've be in the hospital or infirmary.
Okay, how many understand that?

And they wonder why Welsh lamb tastes so good.

 

[Moley]

And they wonder why Welsh lamb tastes so good.

It's all down the the extra 'sauce' we use

 

[Mike Johnson]

No, No, No, stop this please, the images in my head are driving me mad.