Hi im new and could do with some advice!

[oms85]

Hi everyone, I was advised to register on here by me lecturer!

A bit about my background, Ive studied at college and have my 2330 Level 2, was just starting my level 3 but had to pull myself out of college due to family commitments. I also have my 2382-12. I have recently been made redundant and was wondering what I needed to do to go down the self employed route. Am I right in thinking I need my 2391 then I can register on an installers scheme or do I need to complete my 2330 level 3? I was planning on continuing my level 3 at some point in the future when I am able to.

What is slightly annoying me at the moment is that the guy across the road from me who has previously no experience in the field or with any electrical work (I think he was a chef or a school teacher for 15 years) disappeared for 5 weeks then comes back with a van and N.I.C stickers all over it and tells me ive wasted my time.

As im not in touch with my previous lecturers I thought I would sign up here and ask you guys. Thanks in advance, all your help and advice will be much appreciated.

 

[Admin]

Hello oms85, welcome aboard. Enjoy the forum.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Firstly, you lecturer gave you good advice, this is the best college in the universe.
Secondly, welcome to the asylum.
Thirdly, if you have just been made redundant, then get in touch with local colleges, the redundancy service and the job centre (or whatever it is called these days), there is funding available for people like you, to do the various courses that you want to do. I cant be specific, as it all depends on where you live etc, but make some enquiries.

I know about this cos i am in education, and my next door neighbour is doing the 17th edition and Pat for nothing, and he was made redundant a few weeks back. he got his courses through the Job Centre.

Good look.

Cheers..........Howard

 

[jaydee81]

hi and welcome to the forum all you need to register with elecsa or nic domestic installer is 17th edition, 2 million pounds public liability insurance, calibrated tester and a couple of jobs for them to asses you work. if a 5 week wonder can do it im sure you can too

 

[loop3]

That's a costly path to take! Especially at level 2. Your neighbour must be part p. Again , if you don't have clients, costly. Do some research. Costs, local Market, etc etc. It's not easy mate.

 

[telectrix]

first, if you have been made redundant and are signing on, you can get the dole to pay for you to do the 17th. then you need to apply to one of the scams. that cost is around £400 +. depending on which shysters you pick. you will need a major job and a minor job for assessment, 2mill PL insurance, various bits of paper, risk ---. , complaints procedure, h&s crap, building regs., etc.

 

[oms85]

Hi, thanks for your reply, I have my 17th edition, but do I not need my inspection and testing for initial verification? what would happen if i did a full rewire for a customer?

 

[CRAGS]

Hi and welcome

 

[oms85]

Firstly, you lecturer gave you good advice, this is the best college in the universe.
Secondly, welcome to the asylum.
Thirdly, if you have just been made redundant, then get in touch with local colleges, the redundancy service and the job centre (or whatever it is called these days), there is funding available for people like you, to do the various courses that you want to do. I cant be specific, as it all depends on where you live etc, but make some enquiries.

I know about this cos i am in education, and my next door neighbour is doing the 17th edition and Pat for nothing, and he was made redundant a few weeks back. he got his courses through the Job Centre.

Good look.

Cheers..........Howard

Thanks, i will get onto the job centre monday morning!

 

[Sintra]

Hi & welcome.

 

[telectrix]

Hi, thanks for your reply, I have my 17th edition, but do I not need my inspection and testing for initial verification? what would happen if i did a full rewire for a customer?

i assume you refer to 2391. you don't need this to apply for a scam membership. if you do a full rewire, then you use it as a job for assessment . mcontaqct one of the scams for detailed info on what they require. elecsa seem to be the most freindly of the lot.

 

[brucelee]

Hi and welcome to the forum
You dont need the 2391 to join a scam you jsut need to be able to design, install and inspect and test your work to the regs

 

[oms85]

Thanks for every ones replies

 

[oms85]

Hi and welcome to the forum
You dont need the 2391 to join a scam you jsut need to be able to design, install and inspect and test your work to the regs

Just to clarify:

1. With what ive got i can trade as a domestic installer
2. I can register with a scheme
3. As long as i know how to inspect and test i don't need my 2391?
4. So when i do any notifiable work (re-wires etc) i just do an initial inspection and test then call nic or whoever and they register the notifiable works with building control

Forgive me for sounding stupid, but that cant be right can it??!

 

[ruston]

In a word yes, follow the advice advice given by Tel to register for a scheme and away you go. Getting work is the problem ,also if your previous experience is not domestic , although not difficult it takes awhile to find your way around the physicalities.

 

[MarkieSparkie]

Hi, welcome to the forum.

 

[oms85]

Thanks for your help guys!

 

[Amp David]

Hello oms85 and welcome to the forum!

Totally agree with your 2nd paragraph, but apparently you can become a 'Domestic Installer' in that time these days.

Stick around then you can help them out when they get stuck!

 

[wade88]

The most important thing your going to need is a decent thermos flask (winter season is a right bugger when your doing a handstand under someones stairs in the basement), a decent set of thin but warm gloves so your little finger wingers dont near freeze off and you cant terminate a cable to save your life, a metal lunch box with a decent pad lock to stop the magpies knicking your sarnies but by far the most important of all...... a sturdy length of 2 x 4 to bang your head against when your called out to a job to rectify a plumber or kitchen fitters attempt at sparking

Other than that, what everyone else said...

 

[jimelec]

Hi and welcome. I'm also a new member to this forum, and have been self-employed for about 3 months. You're all right saying its not easy. ITS REALLY NOT! That said, word of mouth is everything in the trade, and once you get a few clients in the bag, and treat them well, they will tell their friends. The problem is that nobody trusts us electricians, unless a friend or family has recommended us. I blame Watchdog and those kind of programmes for this! Anyway, get some friends of family to let you do some work for them. Do it cheap and do it well. They'll be coming back for more