I am not a tool tart just a practical person!

[The Ghost]

Why on earth would you do that

I take a pride in most things I do and yeh another coat could be good.......

 

[Rpa07]

I take a pride in most things I do and yeh another coat could be good.......

That's taking pride in what someone else has done - weird even by your standards!

 

[Squid]

I use a Gerber EAB knife for day to day stuff easily changeable Stanley knife blades, For the weekend its either a machete or a stiletto flick knife.

 

[telectrix]

I tried some out and didn't like them, well not entirely dis-liked. I keep them in my "occasional use" tool kit, that I keep in my car so I don't have to lug round loads of tools to do a quick small job. But for day to day I just couldn't get comfy using them, I guess I'm just old school

i'll give you a tenner for them.

 

[Squid]

i'll give you a tenner for them.

£10.10

 

[telectrix]

must have tool for stripping SWA cores, LSF, and flex.

 

[Rpa07]

must have tool for stripping SWA cores, LSF, and flex.

Did you take this photo as the wife was throwing them at you - she's good, fast and accurate - and kinda cute too!

 

[Wilko]

I can, I often straigten existing rough edges on metal back box cables I have really cottoned on the the Morris method and like it. It just looks like a proper electrician has been on the job. It's just much more professional looking, with a bit of science as to why.

Morris method ?

 

[Specialist]

I'll have to treat myself to a decent knife (any excuse) and give it a whirl. May be do some practising on cable I pull out. Any recommendations for a good knife that's going to last?

As for the youngster... I don't get it... I appreciate advice and constructive criticism, it's how we learn to do things better. And well, if I can get a neater finish, quicker... WIN WIN!

Take a look in somewhere like LH Evans, they do a traditional Electricians pocket knife and a CK Cable knife.

I've got both but the one I use more nowadays is the pocketknife, the Cable knife I keep for Armoured.

 

[David M]

i'll give you a tenner for them.

Typical scouser!

 

[The Ghost]

Morris method

Mr James Morris of Morris services had an apoplectic fit when he saw me stripping sheath with the pull the earth and snip the sheath method and insisted we use the electricians knife. As he said it is the difference between and electrician and a craftsman. He was the one who explained the possible stretching (thus reducing the CSA) and increased PFC. He is a very insistent and meticulous as well as extremely erudite engineer and had the highest standards I have ever met and full credit to him.

 

[Rpa07]

Yeh, what he said, especially about the erudite engineer bit!

 

[Andy78]

I'm not a fan of the knife down the cpc method for twin cable myself. I prefer to snip once down the length with cutters then pull apart, not using the cpc though I might add.

 

[Specialist]

Mr James Morris of Morris services had an apoplectic fit when he saw me stripping sheath with the pull the earth and snip the sheath method and insisted we use the electricians knife. As he said it is the difference between and electrician and a craftsman. He was the one who explained the possible stretching (thus reducing the CSA) and increased PFC. He is a very insistent and meticulous as well as extremely erudite engineer and had the highest standards I have ever met and full credit to him.

Vort: Any idea if that's the same Morris services as the one in Bridgend ? i.e J W Morris services, Electrical Engineers ?

 

[The Ghost]

the same Morris services

No, they are in Bristol Kingswood and they don't have any other places they teach in to my knowledge. They are a school for electricians. Very good imo. I asked around a lot and this was the first body that actually told me exactly what I needed to do to improve and what qualifications. All the others just blathered about give us £5-7k and you get 30k a year crap. Where in fact you will just be poorer and none the wiser.

 

[Wilko]

I'm not a fan of the knife down the cpc method for twin cable myself. I prefer to snip once down the length with cutters then pull apart, not using the cpc though I might add.

Me too, it's good exercise for the arms

 

[Wilko]

Just my opinion, but I think anyone who has posted on this thread would likely be a card carrying TT, especially the OP

 

[Andy78]

Me too, it's good exercise for the arms

Yeah but my thumbs seem to be getting a state of perma-ache. Might be time to practice my knife skills.

 

[Pete999]

Just my opinion, but I think anyone who has posted on this thread would likely be a card carrying TT, especially the OP

And just what is wrong with being a Too Tart may I ask?

 

[HandySparks]

I'll have to treat myself to a decent knife (any excuse) and give it a whirl. May be do some practising on cable I pull out. Any recommendations for a good knife that's going to last?

As for the youngster... I don't get it... I appreciate advice and constructive criticism, it's how we learn to do things better. And well, if I can get a neater finish, quicker... WIN WIN!

Stanley Interlock 9mm snap-off blade. Small, solid, always sharp.

Stanley Tools Snap-Off Blade Knife 9mm - http://www.uktoolcentre.co.uk/products/stanley-tools-snap-off-blade-knife-9mm.html

A good knife - http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/threads/a-good-knife.110632/#post-1188902

 

[Squid]

pfffft,

Now this is a knife.......

 

[Wilko]

And just what is wrong with being a Too Tart may I ask?

I are one

 

[Specialist]

No, they are in Bristol Kingswood and they don't have any other places they teach in to my knowledge. They are a school for electricians. Very good imo. I asked around a lot and this was the first body that actually told me exactly what I needed to do to improve and what qualifications. All the others just blathered about give us £5-7k and you get 30k a year crap. Where in fact you will just be poorer and none the wiser.

Ok thanks, didn't realise you were talking about a Training provider.

 

[static zap]

..... i developed a condition known as shiny metal syndrome.......

Mine must be getting bad , I was looking up Gallium the other day (Melts in the hands - midly toxic )
few practical uses , bar spoiling other metals !
( Cool , molten metal man Terminator ?)

 

[Pete999]

I are one

Welcome to the Tool Tart Club Wilko

 

[telectrix]

i'm just as big a tool tart as pete. even better, i'm a tool slag.

 

[Rpa07]

i'm just as big a tool tart as pete. even better, i'm a tool slag.

Only you could make that sound posh Tel!

 

[telectrix]

slags are posh in Liverpool. most of them even wear knickers these days.( even if they are open crotch).

 

[Pete999]

Welcome to the Tool Tart Club Wilko

I'm infected, so bad they hold out little hope for me, although I'm selling bits here and there, I still get the urge, it's dibilitating

slags are posh in Liverpool. most of them even wear knickers these days.( even if they are open crotch).

 

[Pete999]

What about SKANKS Tel?

 

[telectrix]

What about SKANKS Tel?

we exported all them to Northampton

 

[Pete999]

we exported all them to Northampton

Oi you smart bumbed Scouser

 

[Specialist]

What about SKANKS Tel?

Lowlife druggies Pete, Difference between a Tart & Slag: Slag gives out for free & Tarts charge.

 

[telectrix]

so that's why mr.kipling's bakewell tarts are so expensive? had a look on the website. mr.kipling don't do bakewell slags.

 

[Pete999]

so that's why mr.kipling's bakewell tarts are so expensive? had a look on the website. mr.kipling don't do bakewell slags.

Scousers so quick with the comeback as usuall

 

[telectrix]

pete, i've made more comebacks than the isle of man ferry. left the trade 3 times, but back in last 10 years.

 

[Pete999]

pete, i've made more comebacks than the isle of man ferry. left the trade 3 times, but back in last 10 years.

The come back Kid that's you Tel

 

[Pete999]

pete, i've made more comebacks than the isle of man ferry. left the trade 3 times, but back in last 10 years.

What made you leave the Trade Tel? if you don't mind saying.

 

[telectrix]

came out of industry(desk job) as it boring and dead man's shoes. had to make a crust, so went into appliance repairs, then TV repairs, then alarms, back into electrical installation. came into some serious funds so bought an off licence/general store. that went ---- up for various reasons, so back on the tools.

 

[Dave OCD]

came out of industry(desk job) as it boring and dead man's shoes. had to make a crust, so went into appliance repairs, then TV repairs, then alarms, back into electrical installation. came into some serious funds so bought an off licence/general store. that went ---- up for various reasons, so back on the tools.

Did you drink all the stock Tel ?

 

[telectrix]

strangely enough, i limited myself to 2 cases of 12 bottles ( beer that is ) per week. if it was gone by wednesday, i suffered without till sunday. there's only so much the tax and VAT gestapo will allow for spillage/breakage/shoplifting.

editnly ever had 1 shoplifting attempt. a rottweiler's teeth clamped on a scally's arse was a brilliant deterrent.

 

[ashg285]

Knipex Installation Pliers

Love them. Had mine for about 12 months, used them on every job. Can't fault them.

are these the ratchet ones ? I've been looking at buying some but it seems like theres is 2 different types

thanks

 

[SparkyChick]

are these the ratchet ones ? I've been looking at buying some but it seems like theres is 2 different types

thanks

There is no ratchet on mine, wasn't aware that was an option and if I'm honest, I can't see why you would need a ratchet on them.

 

[nunthe wiser]

I can't get on with mine, but there too shiny to give away. The model I have was spring opening with a tab to hold it half closed, tab fell of very quickly and found spring a pain in the bum so removed it. There okay but still prefer pliers and croppers.

 

[SparkyChick]

So, I decided to listen to the 'use a knife' advice and I gave it a whirl this last week during some install work.

I started off by putting a decent branded blade in my crappy Stanley clone and that work great, until I discovered it had escape from my tool bag somewhere due to me being a clutz and putting an open (non-adjustable) knife in the pocket which subsequently cut a hole in it. So I've had to buy a new one and I decided I'd give a decent Stanley a try first. Not a fan of pen knife style knives as I've had a few near misses with them in the past.

It's quicker (or it will be once I master splitting the cable at the end), much neater than peeling out the CPC and snipping off the sheath and there was much less tool swapping going on, so much so, it was really only knife and installation pliers in my pockets.

Thanks for the advice chaps

 

[Specialist]

I try not to use a Stanley knife for stripping wire. Last time I did that, I only realised I'd cut myself when the customer asked me what the Red was, on his shop wall.

It's strange, people get really bitchy when you paint they're walls with claret .

 

[SparkyChick]

Well, it's a stop gap solution for now. I needed a new one anyway. My longer term plan is one of the fixed blade electricians knives. I'm looking at several that have been suggested in this thread.

 

[telectrix]

and one of these is a "must have" for stripping sheath off flex.

Round Cable Stripper with Hook Blade | CPC UK - http://cpc.farnell.com/miller-abeco/mk02/round-cable-stripping-tool/dp/TLAB063

 

[Specialist]

Excellent bit of kit Tel, especially for Armoured.

For t & email, I definitely prefer the Clasp knife though. The hooked end makes for easier control.

 

[telectrix]

but only for the bedding. for the outer i use my CK armourslice, both for the armour and to score the outer sheath.