I agree for dogs, training adult step- kids??... Not so sure :-)
Well if positive reinforcement isn't working..... A mate of mine is off to Florida next week. You want me to get him to bring a stun gun back for you, they're the same ones the US cops use so they'll have a bit more ooomph to them :)
 
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With you on the collar thing...been around farming and equestrian job all my life so NOT a tree hugger,but folk should only fit one of those to their pet if they try it themselves on full setting 10. My mate bought one for his springer and i tried it first to get him to do the same. Put it this way,it will not help you during a game of jenga and my pal NEVER fitted it to his dog...as for apprentices,should be considered part of PPE...
 

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