AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment

[nicebutdim]

The same could be for an average British semi. Maybe with two lighting circuits - but two are not required. This gives five circuits. Installation costs are then cut right down.

 

[westward10]

I have to get you to think and read. Your minds is all over the place.
Back to the point. The design conforms 100% to the 18th and its amendments, offering full AFDD protection to sockets. If you cannot see that why are doing the job you are in?

And it satisfies Regulation 531.3.2(iii). Why don't you tootle off and read it.

 

[UNG]

I have to get you to think and read. Your minds is all over the place.
Back to the point. The design conforms 100% to the 18th and its amendments, offering full AFDD protection to sockets. If you cannot see that why are doing the job you are in?

You can't even answer the question @westward10 posted so you clearly have no access to the regs and anyone who quotes the regs as legal clearly has no understanding of their legal status

As for your profile
Manufacturer Yes you have manufactured some scenario that you think meets the requirements of the regs
Distributor And you have distributed on here as an absolute solution with no other point of view allowed
Supplier You have kept on supplying condescending comments and insults because you and your knowledge has been challenged
Inventor As the invention normally comes before the manfacture I suspect you have them in the wrong order in your profile
etc Who knows what that is

So I would say you are working to your profile

 

[westward10]

@John-SJW you've gone quiet.

 

[John-SJW]

@John-SJW you've gone quiet.

Football on TV. First things first.

 

[westward10]

Football on TV. First things first.

So you are stumped then as your circuit design is flawed and you don't know why.

 

[John-SJW]

You can't even answer the question @westward10 posted

I the design does not conform to the 18th with amendments, then he can tell us where.
So far no has. All I have read is innane circular babble though. Now back to watching the football.

 

[westward10]

I the design does not conform to the 18th with amendments, then he can tell us where.
So far no has. All I have read is innane circular babble though. Now back to watching the football.

Your design is flawed and is not likely to 100% comply with the 18th Ed as you have stated multiple times.

 

[John-SJW]

531.3.2
(iii) in order to avoid unwanted tripping by protective conductor currents and/or earth leakage currents, the accumulation of such currents downstream
of the RCD shall not be more than 30% of the rated residual operating current.

And?

 

[John-SJW]

So you are stumped then as your circuit design is flawed and you don't know why.

You cannot explain why you think this. A bit of a know-it-all eh!

 

[DPG]

Same

You cannot explain why you think this. A bit of a know-it-all eh!

Your attitude gets really offensive when you struggle with people who have greater electrical knowledge than you. I remember some of your previous threads went the same way.

Keep it civil and a good discussion can be had.

 

[John-SJW]

you struggle with people who have greater electrical knowledge than you.

Not this this bunch engaging with me now, inc you. Back to togger.

 

[westward10]

531.3.2
(iii) in order to avoid unwanted tripping by protective conductor currents and/or earth leakage currents, the accumulation of such currents downstream
of the RCD shall not be more than 30% of the rated residual operating current.

And?

And your proposed appliances tot up to?

 

[UNG]

I the design does not conform to the 18th with amendments, then he can tell us where.
So far no has. All I have read is innane circular babble though. Now back to watching the football.

Yes it is yours you have not answered any question that has been posted so far and have only chosen to respond with condescending comments about other peoples knowledge of the subject
So can we have some answers to the questions that have been asked in a coherrent manor

 

[mainline]

I'd question the ability of anyone designing such an installation.

Sorry, I have to disagree with you, but I wouldn't need to question it.

 

[mainline]

Will you drop the sharpen up there is absolutely no need for it in a civilised conversation and it really makes you sound like a bully

The point of this group is for discussion just because someone doesn't agree with you there is no need to belittle them when they present an alternative point of view

You are certainly living up to your profile of Manufacturer / Distributor / Supplier / Inventor - etc and in this thread you have met all four of the areas you operate in

Don't forget, he's also a Tech Writer

 

[mainline]

It is not a novel to read while in bed.

It's not a novel, but I suggest you should read it, whether in bed or not.

But there again you may drive yourself mad, as there maybe so much that you don't agree with or don't understand.

 

[John-SJW]

And your proposed appliances tot up to?

As all the heavy appliance are not on the final ring, well a TV, charging the laptop occasionally, fridge, maybe the occasional use of an electric kettle (kettle can go on the hob), and a vacuum cleaner used a few minues per day. Big load on a 32A final ring eh?

 

[John-SJW]

Yes it is yours you have not answered any question

Again, tell me where it does not conform to the 18th and its amendments? Round and round again.

 

[John-SJW]

It's not a novel, but I suggest you should read it, whether in bed or not.

But there again you may drive yourself mad, as there maybe so much that you don't agree with or don't understand.

Tell me where it does not conform to the 18th and its amendments? Round and round again. I will be waiting a loooooong time!

 

[UNG]

Again, tell me where it does not conform to the 18th and its amendments? Round and round again.

You have been asked questions by a number of posters and you continue with your inane comments without answering the questions asked
It is you who continues to drive this thread round and round as you seem unable or have an inability to answer fairly simple questions that members have posted regarding your hypothetical minimalist installation

 

[DPG]

When does the football come back on?

 

[UNG]

When does the football come back on?

Well he is scoring plenty of own goals

 

[westward10]

As all the heavy appliance are not on the final ring, well a TV, charging the laptop occasionally, fridge, maybe the occasional use of an electric kettle (kettle can go on the hob), and a vacuum cleaner used a few minues per day. Big load on a 32A final ring eh?

Nope you are not understanding the question in relation to Regulation 531.3.2(iii). Do you not understand it?

 

[John-SJW]

Nope you are not understanding the question in relation to Regulation 531.3.2(iii). Do you not understand it?

If you read, and understood, this thread you will know I do. Earth leakage by plug in appliances. I posted 531.3.2(iii), which the poster who brought up 531.3.2(iii). up never did.

The exercise circuit is sound and conforms to the 18th and amendments.

 

[westward10]

If you read, and understood, this thread you will know I do. Earth leakage by plug in appliances. I posted 531.3.2(iii), which the poster who brought up 531.3.2(iii). up never did.

The exercise circuit is sound and conforms to the 198h and amendments.

So the combined leakage will not exceed 9ma.

 

[John-SJW]

So the combined leakage will not exceed 9ma.

Are you saying it will? If so, explain.

 

[DPG]

Are you saying it will? If so, explain.

Why don't you answer the question instead of just throwing things back all the time?

 

[John-SJW]

Why don't you answer the question instead of just throwing things back all the time?

I am not the one bringing it up. so. Are you saying it will? If so, explain.

The excercise design conforms to the 18th and amendments.

 

[DPG]

I am not the one bringing it up. so. Are you saying it will? If so, explain.

The excercise design conforms to the 18th and amendments.

What leakage current would you expect in your design?

 

[westward10]

Are you saying it will? If so, explain.

I asked the question this ain't the tail wagging the dog you know.

 

[John-SJW]

I asked the question this ain't the tail wagging the dog you know.

You did not ask a question. You developed an attitude pointing to 531.3.2(iii), not saying anything else. If you have something to offer the thread then explain it. So far you have not. The exercise design conforms to the 18th and amendments.

 

[UNG]

If you read, and understood, this thread you will know I do. Earth leakage by plug in appliances. I posted 531.3.2(iii), which the poster who brought up 531.3.2(iii). up never did.

I have been reading this thread and so have many others and it is clear you DON'T understand the regs and you only chose to post a small section of 531.3.2 at post #159 I'm assuming you have read the rest of the section so you SHOULD be able to answer the question asked earlier in this thread

The exercise circuit is sound and conforms to the 198h and amendments.

Ahh now we find you are reading the wrong regs

 

[westward10]

You did not ask a question. You developed an attitude pointing to 531.3.2(iii), not saying anything else. If you have something to offer the thread then explain it. So far you have not. The exercise design conforms to the 18th and amendments.

See #176.

 

[John-SJW]

I have been reading this thread

The exercise circuit is sound and conforms to the 18th and amendments.

If you cannot see that get out of the business. Someone who cannot see it should not be going into people's houses.

 

[John-SJW]

See #176.

I did.

 

[DPG]

Utt

The exercise circuit is sound and conforms to the 18th and amendments.

If you cannot see that get out of the business. Someone who cannot see it should not be going into people's houses.

Utterly pointless posts, as most of yours seem to be.

It's a shame because you do seem to have some electrical knowledge, but not enough to allow you to maintain a good debate on the subject.

 

[nicebutdim]

Utt


Utterly pointless posts, as most of yours seem to be.

It's a shame because you do seem to have some electrical knowledge, but not enough to allow you to maintain a good debate on the subject.

An intelligent mind, but one which fixates upon preconceived notions.

 

[John-SJW]

maintain a good debate on the subject.

Trying to explain to three know-it-alls who cannot see that the the exercise circuit is sound and conforms to the 18th and amendments, is not debate.

If you cannot see that it conforms get out of the business. I would not let you into my house to do anything.

 

[John-SJW]

An intelligent mind, but one which fixates upon preconceived notions.

My God! A phycologist as well! It gets better.

 

[DPG]

Trying to explain to three know-it-alls who cannot see that the the exercise circuit is sound and conforms to the 18th and amendments, is not debate.

If you cannot see that it conforms get out of the business. I would not let you into my house to do anything.

Part of the design of an electrical system should take into account earth leakage current. How do you know it complies if you can't answer the question?

No good chucking teddies out of cots and getting offensive, just admit you are out of your depth. No shame in that.

 

[UNG]

I did.

And will it

 

[John-SJW]

Part of the design of an electrical system should take into account earth leakage current. How do you know it complies if you can't answer the question?

The exercise circuit is sound and conforms to the 18th and amendments.

 

[nicebutdim]

Trying to explain to three know-it-alls who cannot see that the the exercise circuit is sound and conforms to the 18th and amendments, is not debate.

If you cannot see that it conforms get out of the business. I would not let you into my house to do anything.

You've been asked time and again to explain, but simply repeat the mantra that the installation would be compliant with regulations.

Please spell out, as though to a child, how your proposal conforms with the aforementioned regulation.

 

[DPG]

The exercise circuit is sound and conforms to the 18th and amendments.

Very repetitive. You have reached your limits it seems

 

[westward10]

I did.

Which post or post it again.

 

[UNG]

An intelligent mind, but one which fixates upon preconceived notions.

Are you sure any intelligent person would have answered the questions asked about 50 or 60 posts ago

 

[nicebutdim]

Are you sure any intelligent person would have answered the questions asked about 50 or 60 posts ago

Something of a dilemma when you go all in on a notion that turns out to be flawed.

 

[John-SJW]

Which post or post it again.

I originally mentioned earth leakage. It is you who developed an attiude, is making an issue of it. You run with it Mate. Still waiting.

 

[DPG]

This must be very embarrassing for you now John. You've backed yourself into a corner.