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The H is thought to have come from a misunderstanding of the middle of the first 3 letters for the name Jesus in the ancient Greek. According to Wikipedia...
And of course Christ is not a name but a title.
 

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Needless to say, the list of things right in that house would be shorter than that of what's wrong. Got to 30 observations then gave up filling in the cert to be honest. Socket outlets in the bathrooms, very little to no earth sleeving used, bad connections at most accessories inspected, jointboxes everywhere, CPCs used as strappers, no earth continuity on half a dozen circuits including socket circuits, outside jointbox which comprised a pattress & blank plate. Plus a bonus "hybrid" circuit which left the board as a 10mm T&E, was immediately joined to 16mm T&E beside the board (see 1st pic). Never did find the joint at the other end but that circuit ended up supplying most of the kitchen sockets, the boiler, oven & hob. (I was assured by the tenant it was a joint and not another consumer unit, he couldn't remember what part of the wall it was hidden in though!)

Bit of a weird setup with long-term tenant who's done alot of work to the property themselves over the years as a return favour for a very low rental rate and a landlord who recently inherited the house. Report is definitely not going to go down well.
 

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I recently had one very similar.
A pre work survey for a board change turned into a quote for a rewire in about an hour.
Also had multiple unused live cables taped up and left floating about behind plasterboard and or in ceiling space..

Fortunately the customer was really keen to get the rewire done once made aware.
 
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Currently doing an EICR as been asked to provide a second opinion. This place allegedly passed the last inspection but the estate agent and landlord weren’t happy.

There are a sh!t loads of faults. But this one I found whilst tracing a cable run from an unidentified circuit. 🤦🏼‍♂️

In the words of Del. ‘No way, no way a qualified electrician did that’! 😂

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Yep unfortunately it is. It’s part of the light circuit!!

So far I have:

6 x C1’s including the one posted.
13 x C2’s
2 x FI’s

I’ve still got a fair way to go but safe to say the landlord is not happy with the previous inspection. 🙄

The letting agency need to be aware of this. I would point out to them that whoever is doing their EICRs is blatantly leaving them open to future court cases.
 

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Yep unfortunately it is. It’s part of the light circuit!!

So far I have:

6 x C1’s including the one posted.
13 x C2’s
2 x FI’s

I’ve still got a fair way to go but safe to say the landlord is not happy with the previous inspection. 🙄
Must have been one of those new 'drive by' inspections that I keep reading about...
 
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The letting agency need to be aware of this. I would point out to them that whoever is doing their EICRs is blatantly leaving them open to future court cases.

Must have been one of those new 'drive by' inspections that I keep reading about...

They have already given them a ‘don’t call us we‘ll call you!’ They had their concerns hence asking me to give a second opinion. When I saw the consumer unit was fed direct from the meter via 16mm T&E and it was on a 100A cutout I knew things weren’t going to go well. I phoned the estate agent at that point and said I had only opened the meter cabinet and already graded it unsatisfactory as 16mm T&E is rated at 85A at best. It may well have a 80A fuse inside the cutout. But as I cant pull it to check then I have to go by what it says on the carrier. I calculated the max demand using diversity to be 86.8A so I doubt it’s on a 80a fuse.

Plus it’s a TN-C-S system and the main earth is the 6mm CPC from the 16mm T&E, that and there are exposed single insulated cores going into to the meter.

I guess the last inspection was by ‘Bodgeit & Scarper’ 😞
 

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They have already given them a ‘don’t call us we‘ll call you!’ They had their concerns hence asking me to give a second opinion. When I saw the consumer unit was fed direct from the meter via 16mm T&E and it was on a 100A cutout I knew things weren’t going to go well. I phoned the estate agent at that point and said I had only opened the meter cabinet and already graded it unsatisfactory as 16mm T&E is rated at 85A at best. It may well have a 80A fuse inside the cutout. But as I cant pull it to check then I have to go by what it says on the carrier. I calculated the max demand using diversity to be 86.8A so I doubt it’s on a 80a fuse.

Plus it’s a TN-C-S system and the main earth is the 6mm CPC from the 16mm T&E, that and there are exposed single insulated cores going into to the meter.

I guess the last inspection was by ‘Bodgeit & Scarper’ 😞

Could well be an 80A fuse - the house won't draw anywhere near that figure.
 

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I know. But my experience round here is that if it says 100A it generally is. They usually stick a label on to say 80A.

It’s possible but I can’t confirm without the DNO pulling it for me.
Is it sealed?
If not, says it all.
If so, they've sealed the meter with a 16mm T+E outgoer......is that right?

Joke all round.
 

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They have already given them a ‘don’t call us we‘ll call you!’ They had their concerns hence asking me to give a second opinion.
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I guess the last inspection was by ‘Bodgeit & Scarper’ 😞
Out of interest, are Bodgeit & Scarper a member of any of the scams ? If so then 2 things come to mind :
1) It's proof (not that any more was needed) that scam membership is no guarantee of even safe work - let alone good and standards compliant work.
2) It needs reporting and see what happens. My w.a.g. on that would be "s.f.a." 🙄
 

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So whoever fitted the meter is the one who connected the source end of the 16mm2 T&E?? Word fail me!
Incidentally, I used to do the odd new build for a local building firm, and when they paid me, the cheques were genuinely in the name of Bodgeit & Scarper.
 
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So whoever fitted the meter is the one who connected the source end of the 16mm2 T&E?? Word fail me!
Incidentally, I used to do the odd new build for a local building firm, and when they paid me, the cheques were genuinely in the name of Bodgeit & Scarper.

It would appear so. Although I’m not overly convinced this has been done by the DNO.

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Then again this is the state of the service cables. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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Service cable looks like the work of whoever fitted the uPVC soffit and barge boards.
If the meter has the correct seal on it and it hasn't been tampered with, then it must have been the meter installer, unless the T&E is wedged in with matchsticks.
 

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There is an entire housing estate near me (I think built around 1985/1990 ish) wired in exactly the same way as the above picture, 10mm twin and earth connected to the meter which then snakes up through the cavity to the consumer unit. I have worked on dozens of these houses and all are wired in twin n earth from the meter to the board. So can only assume this was the original design and connected by the DNO like this
 

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