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Worth noting that even if you post a very good standard of work on this forum its going to get some criticism.
That said, that doesn't look like a very good standard of work at all from any of the photo's so far, it'll be interesting to see what actions, if any, the scheme takes.
Not as rough as the tails.....with T&E clips....well, perhaps not.That trunking at the top of the consumer unit is rough.
What makes it worse is the OP hired an 'electrician' to do the re-wire and this is the dogs breakfast they got.
I could understand the mess if they hired a builder or plumber to do the re-wire but not from a trained electrician.
This industry especially the domestic sector has gone to the dogs and the rough work I see on a regular basis done by so called cps sparks is terrifying.
I even saw a bypassed rcd the other day done by a so called cps sparks. This has to be an all time low for the industry.
I have tried reporting these imposters to the scams in the past but nothing ever happens and the homeowner just ends up paying me or someone else to re-do the work.
Shame
That was also my though. If the exposed joints are typical of the "workmanship" then a lack of proper cable protection/support is not going to surprise meA close up if the bottom of the consumer unit would also be interesting, to see what sort of a gland or grommet they have used - hopefully it is not cables resting on the sharp edge of the metal.
Even if by some twist of fate that birds nest joint was the original wiring , Imo any sparks worth their salt during a full rewire should of at very least put it all in a choc box or adaptable boxOf course everybody is assuming that the exposed terminals are part of the rewire and not the original wiring.
Just saying.
Of course everybody is assuming that the exposed terminals are part of the rewire and not the original wiring.
Just saying.
That's not really suitable for a joint under the floorboards either though£2.50 from any wholesalers
Problem solved
Agreed - and I also think Dusty must be using a very expensive wholesaler !That's not really suitable for a joint under the floorboards either though
The wholesaler knows how much his hourly rate isAgreed - and I also think Dusty must be using a very expensive wholesaler !
I reckon wholesalers in that neck of the woods must serve caviar on toast, canopes, and Pimms, not digestive biscuits and instant coffee...The wholesaler knows how much his hourly rate is
is that relic mushroom free without a cable tie and bare cpc's twisted oiutside the box??£2.50 from any wholesalers
Problem solved
I save JBs for the Rolls Royce Jobs , normally I just twist the wires together and sling the whole mess under the floor boards....is that relic mushroom free without a cable tie and bare cpc's twisted oiutside the box??
I have to say after reading through the thread from the start until the picture of the consumer unit, I was fully expecting to see a BG split load board.
Just reading the Toolstation flyer that arrived by post offering "18th edtition" Contactum CUs dual RCD without SPD. Really?Haha I was going to say the exact same thing, as soon as you see a BG split load board with no SPD on a new consumer unit you know its gunna be rough... Cheapest consumer unit Screwfix sell.
DIY market , it is huge. A few months ago I looked at a job where the retired home owner attempted his own board change purchased on sale from Toolstation but one of his RCDs kept tripping out. He couldn't find the borrowed N on the lightingJust reading the Toolstation flyer that arrived by post offering "18th edtition" Contactum CUs dual RCD without SPD. Really?
True, but if not fitted there should be a risk assessment to justify it. Which I doubt happens in most cases.1. SPDs are optional,not mandatory.
True, but if not fitted there should be a risk assessment to justify it. Which I doubt happens in most cases.
My gripe is more about the stupid "18th edition" naming. You could argue that "17th amendment 3" makes sense for the metal CU that became a requirement then, but if calling it "18th" then what was added if it is not the SPD?
So whats the problem?.......Just reading the Toolstation flyer that arrived by post offering "18th edtition" Contactum CUs dual RCD without SPD. Really?
This is where a Sharpie is your friend Tel, saves 10 seconds thinking time.another small gripe is the internal tails feeding the RCDs. in the wqy. i usually take them out to wire in the circuis, then refit them after. sometimes i even get them in the right order.
This is where a Sharpie is your friend Tel, saves 10 secondsthinkingDrinking time.
This is where a Sharpie is your friend Tel, saves 10 seconds thinking time.
Off topic, but does anyone else sharpie the internal tops of MCB's with the cct details so that you can ident them with the panel off?This is where a Sharpie is your friend Tel, saves 10 seconds thinking time.
I do sometimes number them on the top during an eicr if it's a particularly bad rats nest.Off topic, but does anyone else sharpie the internal tops of MCB's with the cct details so that you can ident them with the panel off?
Genuine question, not a challenge.... apart from the expense, does adding a label internally comply with fire retardancy requirements for a type tested unit?If I'm doing a label print for the outside cover, I normally just do a 2nd label for the bus bar cover inside.
Interesting question!Genuine question, not a challenge.... apart from the expense, does adding a label internally comply with fire retardancy requirements for a type tested unit?
I would say not a problem, as there are already paper labels on the inside of the consumer unit (terminal labels for earth and neutral bars for example).Genuine question, not a challenge.... apart from the expense, does adding a label internally comply with fire retardancy requirements for a type tested unit?
Plenty of 3 phase units have an identical label inside and on the outer cover. Of course they are provided that way by manufacturer so that's a bit different. Just for fun I might try setting fire to a brother label later....
I wouldn't have thought it would provide much fuel for long in a metal unit.
oh you're no fun at all....Mind you, don't use the metallic foil tape
I think a pedant would probably say that the cables are already accounted for in a type test by virtue of the various standards and compliances, whereas the added label has no known BS EN standards materials, adhesive, ink...I doubt that a label makes much difference compared to all the pvc you add when cables are installed.
That probably applies to all the screwdrivers I have left in various panels over the years too.I think a pedant would probably say that the cables are already accounted for in a type test by virtue of the various standards and compliances, whereas the added label has no known BS EN standards materials, adhesive, ink...
The opposite applies too (Confession) - I’ve had a neutral link bar for an Mk split load board in my toolbox for years. I first noticed it after a frantic week and thought ‘someone will phone up and say 50% of things aren’t working’. No one ever did!That probably applies to all the screwdrivers I have left in various panels over the years too.
couple of torches have been lost in the same manor I think.
thankfully they have not caused any spontaneous combustion as far as I know!
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