General rant about the standards of driving these days!

[Moley]

No hard shoulder

Ah, another of my pet hates. Back in the good old days if you had a problem you got on the hard shoulder. With these current 'smart motorways' you are just stuck there in a live lane hoping nothing ploughs/plows (you pick) into you. I wonder how many serious accidents there will be before they realise it's a bad idea.

 

[plugsandsparks]

In the past i have broken down on hard shoulder on M6 north of Brum, it is a truly scary experience, its the fastest wheel change i have ever done, its quite hard to change a wheel when looking at oncoming traffic, yet you feel the next vehicle is going to wipe you out

 

[Squid]

When I read that I thought it said 'a 15 year old with a van'

We do worry about you, sometimes, sheep, 15 year old and worrying about benders.......

 

[Squid]

I started my advanced driver training but never completed the course due to illness but RoadCraft is a good book to read and to follow, what I learnt in the the hours of training I still use today, to be honest I really need to get my advance driving certification.

 

[telectrix]

I started my advanced driver training but never completed the course due to illness but RoadCraft is a good book to read and to follow, what I learnt in the the hours of training I still use today, to be honest I really need to get my advance driving certification.

will that allow you to out bully black cab drivers? if so, it's worth every penny.

 

[Midwest]

In the past i have broken down on hard shoulder on M6 north of Brum, it is a truly scary experience, its the fastest wheel change i have ever done, its quite hard to change a wheel when looking at oncoming traffic, yet you feel the next vehicle is going to wipe you out

You must be mad. One of the quickest ways to get killed.

Leave the vehicle next time safely, and call for breakdown service, preferably by the emergency phones.

Heavy goods vehicles etc, are magnetically drawn to broken down vehicles on the hard shoulder.

 

[Squid]

will that allow you to out bully black cab drivers? if so, it's worth every penny.

Racist.......... white people drive cabs as well, usually West Ham supporters.......

 

[plugsandsparks]

You must be mad. One of the quickest ways to get killed.

Leave the vehicle next time safely, and call for breakdown service, preferably by the emergency phones.

Heavy goods vehicles etc, are magnetically drawn to broken down vehicles on the hard shoulder.

I know, cannot help but conclude its OK for breakdown guy to get killed from your reply, eeekkkk

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Breakdown guys should to my mind have traffic cones which can be deployed to warn of vehicles which may cause a danger.

 

[Midwest]

I know, cannot help but conclude its OK for breakdown guy to get killed from your reply, eeekkkk

No, they do get killed, unfortunately. But they have better training, understanding, hi viz equipment, usually a large highly visible vehicle with emergency style lighting strategically placed, and contact with the Highways Service for support.

 

[Moley]

Leave the vehicle next time safely, and call for breakdown service, preferably by the emergency phones.

I would agree with that. A few years ago I had a blowout on the M3. Front nearside tyre gave out while I was in the outside lane just as I was about to overtake a car. First, it scared the sh*t out of me, 2nd I didn't realise just how hard it is to stop a Vivaro with only one tyre attached to the wheel and 3rd, I realised just how dangerous it is at the side of a motorway. I had to wait for an ATS guy to come out and put a new tyre on. It was company policy to stop us from changing wheels as we hadn't been trained!

 

[telectrix]

advice from highways agency is to get out of the vehicle, retreat to the embankment, call for assistance.crushed metal can be replaced.bodies can't. ( and don't forget to take the kids and dogs as well.)

 

[Midwest]

They actually say to leave pets in the vehicle, can't see a lot of people doing that. Guess after about half hour waiting for recovery, dogs might get frightened and leg it across the motorway.

 

[KWCFC]

How do youngsters afford the cars they drive? When I passed my test I had a 10 year old Mini - old type Mini.

They don't own the car.

The same youngsters are the ones stealing smokes of their mam when they get home because they're struggling with the finance payments.

 

[KWCFC]

If you want to be really worried about the state of driving in the UK you should get a motorbike.

You then realise that these motorists are are actually just murderers who are trying to kill you at every opportunity.

 

[ruston]

A bit strongly worded lol, but I do agree ; as we say up here " They don't give you the lickings of a dog"

 

[telectrix]

If you want to be really worried about the state of driving in the UK you should get a motorbike.

You then realise that these motorists are are actually just murderers who are trying to kill you at every opportunity.

there's 2 sides here.
1. the dopey car driver who can't see you.
2. the daft biker who passes a line of slow or stationary traffic on the wrong side of the road and then wonders why Eddie Stobart's front bumpers are so hard.

 

[pirate]

Just finished watching the WGC from Mexico...
Tiger Woods' driving hasn't improved!

 

[Baddegg]

advice from highways agency is to get out of the vehicle, retreat to the embankment, call for assistance.crushed metal can be replaced.bodies can't. ( and don't forget to take the kids and dogs as well.)

Mrs is optional tel yeah?

 

[Moley]

advice from highways agency is to get out of the vehicle, retreat to the embankment, call for assistance.crushed metal can be replaced.bodies can't. ( and don't forget to take the kids and dogs as well.)

What about the wife?

Ooops. Didn't notice your post Baddegg

 

[telectrix]

What about the wife?

got to leave ballast in there so car don't end up in Wales.

 

[Moley]

got to leave ballast in there so car don't end up in Wales.

Fine by me. My wife is foreign (English) so I'm happy for her to stay out of Wales

 

[telectrix]

last time i was down south wales was on a promise from some wench. went by train so i would not need to worry about a few pints, but... when i got to Cardiff train station, there was an. ad poster..... Max Boyce live in some remote village, tre something. no contest, wench frustrated, Boyce concert brill. OGYY OGGY.

 

[Midwest]

last time i was down south wales was on a promise from some wench. went by train so i would not need to worry about a few pints, but... when i got to Cardiff train station, there was an. ad poster..... Max Boyce live in some remote village, tre something. no contest, wench frustrated, Boyce concert brill. OGYY OGGY.

There could be a Psychology weekend conference spent on that post. Luckily it’s in house. We won’t tell. Just wear a daffodil in your lapel, no one will know

 

[Moley]

You prefer Max Boyce to a good old fashion back alley 'jobbie' with a vallies tart? That's just weird. Having said that Max probably had a smaller ar$e than most of the vallies girls

 

[Squid]

You prefer Max Boyce to a good old fashion back alley 'jobbie' with a vallies tart? That's just weird. Having said that Max probably had a smaller ar$e than most of the vallies girls

It was in back in 63 and he travelled on his Vespa........

 

[Moley]

63? Well that's a relief. Too late to have been my father

 

[telectrix]

just to set the record straight, it was 2003 and her screen name was Green Goddess. when i saw her i knew why.

 

[Moley]

Reminds me of my CB days. There used to be a woman called 'Golden Sabre'. The sexiest voice that you could imagine - and then I met her

 

[Squid]

Reminds me of my CB days. There used to be a woman called 'Golden Sabre'. The sexiest voice that you could imagine - and then I met her

 

[Jjc]

Is it just me or is the general standard of driving going down hill? I had a 'little' commute home yesterday, from Irvine in Scotland to just north of Cardiff. I get really fed up of the number of 'CLODs' (Center Lane Only Drivers) that travel on motorways. I'm tootling along on the inside lane with nothing in front of me apart from cars doing 60 in the middle lane. I have the option of passing on the inside with the risk that they just might realise that they can use that lane or go from the left lane to the third lane, pass, then back to the left lane. Why can't they just go into the left lane? At road works, they sit in the middle and outside lanes doing 45 while I'm doing 50 in the inside, again, with no other traffic. CLODs really pi$$ me off! Another pet hate, people not waving or flashing when you stop to let them through. Happens a lot around here. A row of parked cars, you stop to let a car coming towards you through and they just stare blankly as they go past, not the hint of a 'thank you' wave or flash of the lights. And don't get me started on the number of reps I see on a motorway doing paper work as they drive. I've even seen guys with paper work on the steering wheel as they drive.
Oh I feel better after that rant. Just got the drive back up to Scotland tomorrow to look forward to now.

You're considering undertaking and talking about driving standards ?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

What are the 3 scenarios where you are allowed to undertake other road users?

 

[Marti]

You need to buy some 2mm bore green/yellow sleeving the pleasure of its aesthetic neatness makes you chill out.

LOOK MUM! See, I'm not wierd

Incidentally, the remarks about bikes ring true. I've ridden for motor bikes for over 30 years but the VFR800 goes up for sale this summer. I just don't bounce the way I used to or tarmac is getting harder so we will part while I have happy memories and no bruises.

 

[Moley]

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Oi! She's classed as a sex symbol here in Wales

 

[Moley]

You're considering undertaking and talking about driving standards ?

I didn't say I do it, I overtake and then cut the t**t up when I swerve back into the left lane

 

[Moley]

What are the 3 scenarios where you are allowed to undertake other road users?

I can think of two. If someone is indicating right and waiting to turn and on a congested road where your lane is moving faster than the one to the right although in that situation you are usually trying to avoid the cars that are swapping lanes all the time just to get one car length ahead

 

[Squid]

I can think of two. If someone is indicating right and waiting to turn and on a congested road where your lane is moving faster than the one to the right although in that situation you are usually trying to avoid the cars that are swapping lanes all the time just to get one car length ahead

Number 3 when your girlfriend has run away to be with her family 3 fields away from your house.

 

[John Arnold]

Too many drivers only practice the "F U" rule and signal as if they have to pay £1 for each flash. Good expression "CLODs" far too many of them about. Great rant .

 

[Deleted member 26818]

The 3 scenarios where you can undertake are:

1. In a one way street.
2. When a vehicle is indicating right (used to be when a vehicle is turning right).
3. When your lane is moving faster than other lanes to your right.

 

[grumpyjohn01]

If you want to be really worried about the state of driving in the UK you should get a motorbike.

You then realise that these motorists are are actually just murderers who are trying to kill you at every opportunity.

Nothing like riding a motorcycle for making you a better car driver