Glass washing machine 3 phase 63a per phase

[Andy78]

as stated above. not my bag. i will do it though. and i will do the job well. after advice not criticism. can i not ask advice on here? so instead of being a ****? why not advise..

Honestly, from what you have said you have a very poor understanding of the job at hand, a simple job, which is why you are being asked so many questions.
Just provide as much info as possible and you will get as much help as possible. This is the internet and you can ask questions but you have no given right to receive the answers you expect to.

 

[The Ghost]

Damn thats a big mother! Sure it wont melt the plastic cups
Anyhow at 16mm² the armour should suffice as a CPC. So four core is a viable choice. There is a PDF on here somewhere with the steel equivalent to copper ratings. Is this clipped direct and horizontal run?

 

[Strima]

Depending on how the adeabatic works out, existing supply test results, Zdb etc, then I would probably go with a 4 core. Use the armour as CPC, install a TPN&E socket. The N may not be required for this machine but might be needed in the future.

 

[2wireit]

Honestly, from what you have said you have a very poor understanding of the job at hand, a simple job, which is why you are being asked so many questions.
Just provide as much info as possible and you will get as much help as possible. This is the internet and you can ask questions but you have no given right to receive the answers you expect to.

andy, as i have said, clipped direct 16mm. rather than rely on the SWA earth i would personally run 5 core? and neither to incorporate a switched fused isolator? all I'm asking

 

[westward10]

What type of 63A socket do you intend to fit and will you connect the swa direct to it.

 

[The Ghost]

Have you downloaded manufacturers installation instructions? Any help if you have???

 

[2wireit]

i haven't no. its easier to ask. but as i guessed on here its a waste of time. I'm extremely tired. earnt £1630, in 4 days and working tomorrow. but yes I'm a useless ---- yes yes. came on here for advice.

 

[The Ghost]

Steady on now, no need to get so despondent. It sounds from what you are saying it is a plan. And workable. So you have had a couple of comments but steady on now.

 

[Ib≤In≤Iz]

i haven't no. its easier to ask. but as i guessed on here its a waste of time. I'm extremely tired. earnt £1630, in 4 days and working tomorrow. but yes I'm a useless **** yes yes. came on here for advice.

And with that attitude your not going to get very far are you mate.

 

[2wireit]

its not my bag. i just want instructions on what to do. yes i am a spark 2330 qual 10 years ago. sorry i need to ask. but i do what i do. and earn well. new job comes up ill do it ask advice. anyone want to give??

 

[2wireit]

And with that attitude your not going to get very far are you mate.

haven't got attitude. don't see why people can't share information. we are here for a good time. not a long time.

 

[westward10]

i haven't no. its easier to ask. but as i guessed on here its a waste of time. I'm extremely tired. earnt £1630, in 4 days and working tomorrow. but yes I'm a useless **** yes yes. came on here for advice.

Grow a pair Joey.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I now will give my penny's worth .find out who's dishwasher it is then guessing that would be my advice .and try and stop from throwing you dummy out of the pram.

 

[The Ghost]

I think it is quite a jump from domestic/new build to go into commercial and do a 3 phase but in principle I cannot see why anyone should not do so. The tech department who does the machine should be able to advise. Is there any reason someone should not be helped or encouraged on such a jump really? It seems the basic calcs are done and yes there would appear to be a learning curve involved but are we not here to do that??? or no? Or am I missing something?

 

[ipf]

i haven't no. its easier to ask. but as i guessed on here its a waste of time. I'm extremely tired. earnt £1630, in 4 days and working tomorrow. but yes I'm a useless **** yes yes. came on here for advice.

Don't get your knickers in a twist.......go and count your dosh and go to bed.

 

[2wireit]

And with that attitude your not going to get very far are you mate.

haven't got attitude. don't see why people can't share information. we are here for a good time. not a long time.

I think it is quite a jump from domestic/new build to go into commercial and do a 3 phase but in principle I cannot see why anyone should not do so. The tech department who does the machine should be able to advise. Is there any reason someone should not be helped or encouraged on such a jump really? It seems the basic calcs are done and yes there would appear to be a learning curve involved but are we not here to do that??? or no? Or am I missing something?

yes i have done cable calcs to determine cable size. but unsure if a fused isolator was nessasary? it seems not? and my theory of running a separate cpc is also not nessasary??

 

[2wireit]

so straight off of a 63a three phase crabtree breaker to a commando socket?

 

[The Ghost]

Thats what @telectrix said and he's da man, trusted advisor! Post #8

 

[buzzlightyear]

so straight off of a 63a three phase crabtree breaker to a commando socket?

what size of cable ?answer on a post card .to top dog electrical forums .via father xmas north pole .the world

 

[AJshep]

Commando socket serves as local Isolation up to 32amp sockets
However,
Personally I'd come from the DB to a 125amp rotary Isolator then link with a bit of 25mm conduit and mount the plug underneath, or I'd get a interlink socket with a built in isolator.

The reason I'd go this route is because your struggle terminating an 16mm 4 core SWA straight into a 63 amp socket.
In my opinion 63amp rotary isolators are made to small as well.