Looking for an insulated hex set (perhaps one that fits the draper torque screwdriver!)

[HappyHippyDad]

I am having more dealings with western power. In turn, they are now fitting series 8 cut outs and generally an isolator. Both of these have hex key screws. I am not comfortable using my uninsulated set.

I have a draper torque screwdriver and it would be great if they do some hex key's that fit this, but I can't find any. Does anyone know if they do them that specifically fit the torque screwdriver.

Alternatively would anyone recommend a set of insulated hex key's, not the standard L shaped ones, but ones with a handle?

I have found these https://www.amazon.co.uk/C-K-T4422-...381e3&pd_rd_wg=6xNgg&pd_rd_i=B086984Y8Z&psc=1
which I like the look of, but the very first review puts me off a little as I want them to be slim enough to fit into the terminals. Bit of a long shot but does anyone know if the CK set reaches into the line and neutral terminals of the proteus isolator ?

 

[telectrix]

is your driver a standard 6mm hex end?

 

[Strima]

I know Wiha do some as I have a set but they're an odd size so I suspect they only fit their screwdrivers, probably for safety reasons so you can't use non-insulated tools.

 

[pc1966]

I think the Wera ones are 9mm across flats, not the typical 6.35mm = 1/4" of most driver bits. Guess it also allows for enough insulation!

 

[pc1966]

Here is a Wiha bit:

37225 | Wiha Hexagon Screwdriver Bit, Hex 4 Tip, Hex Drive | RS

uk.rs-online.com

 

[HappyHippyDad]

is your driver a standard 6mm hex end?

No, it's this one. They look about 9mm

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Here is a Wiha bit:

37225 | Wiha Hexagon Screwdriver Bit, Hex 4 Tip, Hex Drive | RS

uk.rs-online.com

ooh, they look good pc1966. I wonder if they fit the draper!?

 

[pc1966]

Here is the Wera hex one search result on RS:

Screwdrivers | Handheld Screwdrivers | RS

Shop our range of Screwdrivers supplies & accessories. Free Next Day Delivery. Browse our latest Screwdrivers offers.

uk.rs-online.com

 

[telectrix]

No, it's this one. They look about 9mm
View attachment 64115

that looks like same size drive end as wera. for those terminals all you need is a 3.0mm hex. end.

 

[pc1966]

ooh, they look good pc1966. I wonder if they fit the draper!?

I think the Whia ones are 6mm drive, based on RS data sheet.

 

[telectrix]

I think the Whia ones are 6mm drive, based on RS data sheet.

they are. i have a set. 6mm or 1/4".

 

[Strima]

Wiha are 6mm.

6mm or 1/4"

Technically 6mm is 0.236" or 59/250... ?

1/4" is 6.37mm. ?

Either way standard 1/4" bits won't fit in Wiha screwdrivers..

 

[pc1966]

1" is defined as 25.4mm these days, so 1/4" = 6.35mm exactly.

Of course, what is actually manufactures won't be exact!

 

[kropaske]

@happyhippydad
How do you find that Draper torque kit? I am keen to get it.
If you can post some measurements of the bit that slots in we can check against my wera set and see if they can be interchangable.
I'll post some pics tomorrow

 

[HappyHippyDad]

@happyhippydad
How do you find that Draper torque kit? I am keen to get it.
If you can post some measurements of the bit that slots in we can check against my wera set and see if they can be interchangable.
I'll post some pics tomorrow

I like it. Much cheaper than the Wiha torque. I cant's compare it to the wiha though as I don't have those.

It feels like good quality, the bits stay locked in place and the bits fit into the screws firmly, that's about all you need really.

The bits measure 9mm, although that's just me measuring them.
Here is a link to the ergo-plus rangehttps://www.drapertools.com/category-products/8381/VDE-Screwdrivers-965-ERGO-PLUS-Range

But.... thinking about it, I would have gone with the wiha torque, simply because they have a wider range and I wouldn't be in the predicament I am in now.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I've made a decision! ?

Wiha SlimVario VDE Interchangeable Screwdriver Set 16 Pieces - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. Integrated blade insulation reduces blade diameter allowing unhindered access to low-lying fasteners. Supplied with VDE SlimVario screwdriver bit holder and interchangeable SlimBits in a roll-up pouch. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute.

www.screwfix.com

They have a hex 3, 4 and 5 and they are slimline. That's exactly what I want, expensive(ish) but not a silly price. Happy days ?

 

[loz2754]

Just be aware that Slim Vario only fit Wiha handles.

 

[pc1966]

I've made a decision! ?

Wiha SlimVario VDE Interchangeable Screwdriver Set 16 Pieces - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. Integrated blade insulation reduces blade diameter allowing unhindered access to low-lying fasteners. Supplied with VDE SlimVario screwdriver bit holder and interchangeable SlimBits in a roll-up pouch. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute.

www.screwfix.com

They have a hex 3, 4 and 5 and they are slimline. That's exactly what I want, expensive(ish) but not a silly price. Happy days ?

That should do the cut-out hex screws, but is not the torque limiting sort of handle.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

That should do the cut-out hex screws, but is not the torque limiting sort of handle.

I just can't justify another torque screwdriver after just getting one. I'd love to, but I'll have to make do with the non-torque.

 

[pc1966]

I just can't justify another torque screwdriver after just getting one. I'd love to, but I'll have to make do with the non-torque.

See if you can get a hex bit for your current torque driver.

 

[pc1966]

The Wera bits look very much like the Draper ones you linked to. Anyone nearby with some you could try out to see if they fit?

 

[Micktw68]

Get yourself a set of Boddingtons. Not cheap but kwaliteeee gear.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

See if you can get a hex bit for your current torque driver.

I've just written to draper and asked that exact question.

 

[pc1966]

Get yourself a set of Boddingtons. Not cheap but kwaliteeee gear.

Where did you get yours?

I have filled in a request for thier web site, but don't know if there are easier ways to buy them.

Cheaper is to get a couple of hex bits for my Wera, but there are other insulated tools that would be nice to have. I don't normally work live (no one does by preference!) but also I like to know if it went wrong or emergancy called I would have a proper kit to actually do so.

 

[Lister1987]

Where did you get yours?

I have filled in a request for thier web site, but don't know if there are easier ways to buy them.

Cheaper is to get a couple of hex bits for my Wera, but there are other insulated tools that would be nice to have. I don't normally work live (no one does by preference!) but also I like to know if it went wrong or emergancy called I would have a proper kit to actually do so.

loadout.shop is one outlet however believe it's a £45 minimum on Boddingtons gear as they operate on a dropshipping basis.

 

[Micktw68]

Where did you get yours?

I have filled in a request for thier web site, but don't know if there are easier ways to buy them.

Cheaper is to get a couple of hex bits for my Wera, but there are other insulated tools that would be nice to have. I don't normally work live (no one does by preference!) but also I like to know if it went wrong or emergancy called I would have a proper kit to actually do so.

I’ve got a Boddingtons trade account, but can actually get them cheaper from the loadout shop. Not totally sure how that works...they must be getting a massive discount for bulk buying.

 

[pc1966]

I’ve got a Boddingtons trade account, but can actually get them cheaper from the loadout shop. Not totally sure how that works...they must be getting a massive discount for bulk buying.

Thanks, will look there as well. We don't really buy enough to justify opening trade accounts for many suppliers, but will see.

 

[telectrix]

I've made a decision! ?

Wiha SlimVario VDE Interchangeable Screwdriver Set 16 Pieces - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. Integrated blade insulation reduces blade diameter allowing unhindered access to low-lying fasteners. Supplied with VDE SlimVario screwdriver bit holder and interchangeable SlimBits in a roll-up pouch. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute.

www.screwfix.com

They have a hex 3, 4 and 5 and they are slimline. That's exactly what I want, expensive(ish) but not a silly price. Happy days ?

that's the set I have.the bits are 6mm (1/4") fit (in the handle). only problem is that the bits regularly fall out when in use. it's too easy for the sliding bit lock to move to the unlock position.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Got one of these ITL 02760 Totally Insulated T Bar Hexagon Key - 3mm Key Size - https://www.tester.co.uk/itl-totally-insulated-3mm-hexagon-key
I use it on wpd cutouts when adding an earth and fits fine

 

[kropaske]

Those are the sizes of the wera set,
@happyhippydad can you check against your draper kit?

 

[telectrix]

Got one of these ITL 02760 Totally Insulated T Bar Hexagon Key - 3mm Key Size - https://www.tester.co.uk/itl-totally-insulated-3mm-hexagon-key
I use it on wpd cutouts when adding an earth and fits fine

that's cheaper than some on ebay.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Those are the sizes of the wera set,
@happyhippydad can you check against your draper kit?

Just seen this post @kropaske . Really kind of you to go to the trouble of doing all that work.

I have just measured the draper ones and the Wera will not fit. I'll write your measurements down just in case I am not seeing them correctly as I have noticed a picture can distort things a bit

Your measurements (Wera).

Picture 1 = 51mm
Picture 2 = 7mm
Picture 3 = 6mm
Picture 4 = 37mm

Draper

Picture 1 = 51mm
Picture 2 = 10mm
Picture 3 = 9mm
Picture 4 = 33mm

I've just bought the Slimline Wiha, they seem perfect!

 

[Mike Johnson]

The Armeg set come with 3mm and 4mm as standard: 13 Piece Fully Loaded VDE Adjustable Torque Screwdriver Set

 

[HappyHippyDad]

The Armeg set come with 3mm and 4mm as standard: 13 Piece Fully Loaded VDE Adjustable Torque Screwdriver Set

Yeah, but you'd need a house in France and some fancy cars to be able to afford that. ?

 

[Mike Johnson]

Yeah, but you'd need a house in France and some fancy cars to be able to afford that. ?

Or don't undersell yourself. ?

 

[kropaske]

Draper

Picture 1 = 51mm
Picture 2 = 10mm
Picture 3 = 9mm
Picture 4 = 33mm

I've just bought the Slimline Wiha, they seem perfect!

Thanks for those. It wood seem that picture get distorted. Wera measurements are exactly the same as draper except last one. Draper 33mm, wera 40mm. So it looks like wera will fit but may not lock.
I'll find out soon as bought this kit:

Draper Expert 19pc Torque Screwdriver set - Powertoolmate

www.powertoolmate.co.uk

Not bad price too

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Thanks for those. It wood seem that picture get distorted. Wera measurements are exactly the same as draper except last one. Draper 33mm, wera 40mm. So it looks like wera will fit but may not lock.
I'll find out soon as bought this kit:

Draper Expert 19pc Torque Screwdriver set - Powertoolmate

www.powertoolmate.co.uk

Not bad price too

Wow, they were distorted. Well, glad they'll fit, even if they won't lock.