ring to spider radials ?!?

[chrish_1977]

Hi guys, just your thoughts please, customer has come to me after having a eicr (by someone else). Anyway there a circuit for sockets (5 in total) its on one 2.5 from the board and then goes to a jb under floor somewhere (not a problem I hear you say) but from this jb it turns from a 2.5 t+e to a 3core and earth to each of the sockets. I have to said to customer that it needs to be sorted but they don't want me to take the posh laminate up, so my dilemma could I blank off say 2 sockets and put the rest on a 16a mcb or would it be best to disconnect totally and tell him that if he wants the sockets then I need to find jb and rewire from there in the correct cable.

Thanks in advance

Chris

 

[Guitarist]

What size is the 3-core+cpc?

 

[chrish_1977]

1,5 my good man

 

[bluestar]

no different in principal to bbe`s plug and play system!!!!

 

[Guest55]

disconnect totally ?
that should be absolute last resort and you have absolutely no authority to do it anyway.
just derate to 16a till hes prepared to lift the floor.
why make it a big drama lol.

 

[trev]

This kind of thing really bloody annoys me! The muppet is prepared to spend god knows how much on making the house look good (in his opinion) but doesn't want to spend a few quid to protect himself and any family from a potential horrible painful fiery death. Tell him I said he's an idiot.

 

[chrish_1977]

What do you mean authority? It's bit wired correctly (done by previous owner) and is just a long line of problems, surely safety of circuit as cable is under rated for the install

 

[trev]

Unlike the gas lads we don't have the power of TOFO (turn off and .... off)

 

[chrish_1977]

I would love to, but they have bought this flat and the previous owner decided to do it himself, no main earth, tails 10mm, no bonding at all, under floor heating fed from a socket in lounge which also has a borrowed neutral from the sockets to lighting to power 4 downlights. Double spurred sockets in kitchen, fridge spur fed in 1.5mm.

 

[Guest55]

you cant disconnect anything without the owners permission.
i think you'll find that is the law.

 

[chrish_1977]

Even if its dangerous (in my opinion) and the state if the rest if the install is a mess

 

[dan86]

I would love to, but they have bought this flat and the previous owner decided to do it himself, no main earth, tails 10mm, no bonding at all, under floor heating fed from a socket in lounge which also has a borrowed neutral from the sockets to lighting to power 4 downlights. Double spurred sockets in kitchen, fridge spur fed in 1.5mm.

if its as bad as you make out, offer them a price they simply Cannot resist for a rewire and chance your arm!

 

[Guest55]

What do you mean authority? It's bit wired correctly (done by previous owner) and is just a long line of problems, surely safety of circuit as cable is under rated for the install

what problems ?
you havent mentioned anything that cant be fixed by a smaller mcb.

 

[Guest55]

Even if its dangerous (in my opinion) and the state if the rest if the install is a mess

see post #10
:-/

 

[chrish_1977]

Nicely decorated, ornate plaster on ceiling original plaster roses etc etc

Already offered that and they say no!

 

[chrish_1977]

Thanks for the enlightening tone biff55

 

[Guest55]

well you just werent listening were you ?

 

[ipf]

Had the EICR done for a reason. Why ? Knows he has problems ?
Has he been told already and trying to find a cheaper way out ?
Who knows ? Dangerous balls up.

 

[trev]

Nicely decorated, ornate plaster on ceiling original plaster roses etc etc

Already offered that and they say no!

Did one a few months back with a mate, huge great cornice around a massive room and an enormous plaster monstrosity in the middle. As you know there's ways round all that nonsense if you're careful. The guy is being a knacker, downgrade the MCB/fuse and walk away mate.
If he upgrades it again to a 30/32 amp then it's his look out, we can't force people to have work done (Unfortunately hehe)

 

[SPARTYKUS]

My best mate rang me a few years back - heard a very loud bang and smoke, then no sockets worked upstairs.

or the shower (10.8kW), or the immersion.

was all off a 2.5 radial and spidered from one Jb under the laminate floor.... Ripped it all upand it had gone off like a GRENADE

HE was lucky. Virtually rewired the house

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This kind of thing really bloody annoys me! The muppet is prepared to spend god knows how much on making the house look good (in his opinion) but doesn't want to spend a few quid to protect himself and any family from a potential horrible painful fiery death. Tell him I said he's an idiot.

made I laugh Trev