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Strima said:
When was the garage conversion done? Before doing anything it might be worth speaking to building control regarding a dangerous installation. This cowboy needs stopping.
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I tried to persuade the customer to go down that route, but he wasn’t interested. Just wants its fixed. Shame. I agree. This person is probably doing the same elsewhere right now.
He’s brickwork is good though..,
 

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Marcus Vaughan said:
I tried to persuade the customer to go down that route, but he wasn’t interested. Just wants its fixed. Shame. I agree. This person is probably doing the same elsewhere right now.
He’s brickwork is good though..,
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Sweet baby Jesus and all the orphans, what the **** is that mess? Thing is, customers allow them to get away with this crap in the first place, if they didn't these cowboys wouldn't last long and end up working in Tescos stacking shelves...

Either that or the customer did it themselves and won't admit it.
 
Marcus Vaughan said:
I tried to persuade the customer to go down that route, but he wasn’t interested. Just wants its fixed. Shame. I agree. This person is probably doing the same elsewhere right now.
He’s brickwork is good though..,
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That can not be the finished job surely

That is rough as ----
 
Marcus Vaughan said:
I tried to persuade the customer to go down that route, but he wasn’t interested. Just wants its fixed. Shame. I agree. This person is probably doing the same elsewhere right now.
He’s brickwork is good though..,
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What's the protocol in this situation? Is cooperation of the customer required for building control to take notice or should it be reported anyway? Given the state of it there can't be any way building control are aware the work has been carried out and fixing the wiring will leave a paper trail that shows you've worked on it and not reported it when something else goes wrong and they find out.
 
Strima, it looks as though the brickie worked as a shelf-stacker in Tesco...that brickwork looks very like a badly stacked shelf...
and yes, maybe it will be rendered...(it'll have to be now, clearly) but what about the wall either side? Just render the bad bit and...
make a "feature" of it, as many a "builder" has said in the past.
 
Looks like the connection was right at the tip of the twist and was only just in the terminal. The second you pulled it forward it snapped off ?
 
telectrix said:
it's OK. the cpc is still connected.:(:(:(
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Don't shout but it was live when I took it off by the time I had took the pic and gone off to isolate the cpc departed company and the face plate was on the floor:p
Think they screwed the terminals with their small finger nail.
 
pirate said:
Strima, it looks as though the brickie worked as a shelf-stacker in Tesco...that brickwork looks very like a badly stacked shelf...
and yes, maybe it will be rendered...(it'll have to be now, clearly) but what about the wall either side? Just render the bad bit and...
make a "feature" of it, as many a "builder" has said in the past.
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It was not originally intended to render it - unless there was a mis-communication. Even it was planned it’s still bad. Bricks stacked on top of each other?! Surely we learn to stagger bricks when we play with Lego. Mortar beds are pretty much non-existent in places.

Anyway - no other houses are rendered on the street, so it’s going to be out of keeping.

Made some progress today but keep finding stuff. Here is how to do a single socket to double socket conversion;
Step 1: Twist existing cables together and extend with 1.0mm.
Step 2: Protect the connection with selotape.
Step 3: Extend the other bit with some more 1.0mm using a choc block.
Step 4: Push extended cables through the back of a surface mount back box and attach back box to the wall. Make sure you do not use any rawl plugs, woodscrews into crumbly plaster is just fine.
Step 5: Connect up and write invoice, ensuring you have sufficient funds to- restock on sellotape.

Customer is following me around whilst I sort all this out.....
 

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I would hate to sound racist but was the work done by someone who’s not native to Europe?
 
Dave5678 said:
What's the protocol in this situation? Is cooperation of the customer required for building control to take notice or should it be reported anyway? Given the state of it there can't be any way building control are aware the work has been carried out and fixing the wiring will leave a paper trail that shows you've worked on it and not reported it when something else goes wrong and they find out.
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Good questions but I honestly don’t know. I’d say it’s between the customer and the builder and I’ve got to be especially careful to cover my self with plenty of images, test results and certificates.

Come to think of it certificates are going to be a nightmare. Cross connected circuits and all sorts.

I think the customer is moving towards taking some action but keeps talking about social media etc. Which I don’t think is the way.

My understanding is that if a customer is not satisfied with a tradesman’s work then they have to give them the opportunity to make it right. Not sure that works with electrical work because, obviously, everything worked fine and looked OK (ish).
 
just because it works, don't make it right. to be right it must work, obviously, but also must comply with regs. and therefore be safe to use. that abortion obviously ain't right.
 
Marcus, obviously you agree with me about the brickwork, but are you being a little harsh on the wiring...
I mean if it's real Sellotape, not some cheap copy, what could go wrong?
My Dad always insisted on proper Formica...not some cheap imitation stuff!


Seriously though...those pics are shocking...frankly, someone should be jailed for that
 
telectrix said:
just because it works, don't make it right. to be right it must work, obviously, but also must comply with regs. and therefore be safe to use. that abortion obviously ain't right.
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Boeing 737 Max worked most of the time. All due respect to those who lost their lives. :(
 
Looks like a bit of a mishap in that surface box, with the black smoke marks. Wonder if the sellotape failed at a time lol
 
Not the worst thing I have seen but,
This is in a trade counter that’s supposed to be showing off The product.
 

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So I got called out to a tripping breaker last week. 30A old Wylex push button MCB. Client had repeatedly re-energised and reported it stayed on for a while. This is what I found in a back box...

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After what I thought was a thorough walk round and some testing, it looked like there were just loads on the circuit, I did energise it whilst clamping the supply... 50A!

Wasn't able to restore full service but went back yesterday and this is what I found during my investigations:-

TT System with a fully functional 100mA upfront RCD which had been disconnected, but left in the on position... client was wondering why it didn't trip when this fault occured.

Ring final circuit with a leg that had been deliberately cut to break the ring with still connected live cable ends left uninsulated in a back box. The circuit was left on the 30A breaker.

Another socket had been taped over with parcel tape by the last 'electrician' to visit because it wasn't working.

When I left, the ring appeared to be in good order with good end to end continuity, the topology appears to be correct (some sockets were a bit high on the R1+R2 front but there is a bit of damp problem - that I suspect has been caused by people rendering inside and out with a strong mortar mix instead of lime render), IR is a bit low at around 2.5-3Mega ohm, RCD has been restored and tested (fully functional) and as far as I can tell all socket outlets have a functioning earth which is a major step forward from when I arrived as I found several with loose or non-existent connections.

The worst of it is, as best as I can tell, it was left in a bad way by a local guy who as far as I can tell has never been registered with a scheme but has been advertising for years offering the full compliment of domestic electrical services. It's not the first time his name has come up when I found some bad work.

Had another case the other day where I was moving a socket outlet. Started testing and shocker, the results were in some cases not at all like the certificate (they had a CU change back in June)... all circuits recorded having an IR of 200 Megaohms. I only found one that had anything like that, and on one half of the board, none of them had an IR of much over 3Mega ohms. And why was the board change sold to them? Because plastic boards are now illegal and they needed RCD protection for the lights in the bathroom (true) and their new mixer shower (true). But given they already had RCD protection on the socket circuits, both could have been supplied as spurs from the socket circuit... but hey how, plastic boards are now illegal so I can see a lot of board changes coming my way!!! FFS

Again, in that case a name came up that I've run across before, again in relation to some dodgy work. Does my head in!
 
pirate said:
That slight charring on the two top lefthand terminals needs lookin into...
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There’s quite a knack getting the termination just loose enough to get the correct arc. Takes years of practice to become competent. I hear that TLC are bringing out some lemon and coriander flavour earth sleeving :rolleyes:
 
I was on holiday last weekend barbequing half a dozen lovely juicy switch fused outlets (sausages) on our little bucket we use on caravan sites.... when a hungry seagull came and nabbed one off the grill.

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Bas***d!
Bludi seagulls!
One did the same to me recently...tore a chicken breast off the BBQ, and it was stuck on quite hard...how it stood the heat I do not know.
 
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