Mental health in the electrical industry

[OnlQQker]

Did we have less polution 50 -60 years ago I remember the choking smogs we used to get when every house had a coal fire and smokeless coal was an option, I've never seen that in the last 40 years or have we changed how we define polution with better analysis today than we had decades ago, although how much polution can be attributed to the internet when compared to what vehicles produce

You're most probably correct, we seem to be fed information (from birth, taught to walk and talk as quickly as possible, then told to sit down and shut up)
The part that alarms me most is how media can report what it likes, at times backed up by scientists I have never heard of, and everybody believes something 100%

Statistics can be twisted to suit the agenda of those publishing them, speak to any good statistician and they will tell you that

Somebody once told me that 87.56% of statistics are made up on the spot.

I always remember a BBC Tomorrows World program back in the late 60's or early 70's where is was suggested as we ate more processed food we would probably need to eat a soil sandwich every so often to ensure we maintained the levels of trace elements that our bodies need to function properly

Now that was a good show, I think they replaced that with The Teletubbies.

Ahhh the Clarkes shoe shop getting your feet measured so you got the right shoes so your feet grew properly, is it still a thing these days or has must have fashion taken over

If it wasn't for Clarkes I would of been walking like a pigeon!

As the saying goes "What goes around comes around" the problem now is life is run far faster today with the I want it now culture than it was before the internet, 20 - 30 years ago you waited for the postman now documents and high quality pictures can be on the other side of the world in seconds

Good point!

When I was installing radio data links 15 - 20 years ago one question that was often asked when we were doing pre installation survey's was how much radiation will this radio put out, the standard response from the radio engineer was a lot lees than you have blasted into your head taking that mobile phone call, so maybe after a day of taking mobile phone calls we need to sleep with an earth lead attached to discharge all EMR from the days phone calls

I don't have a mobile phone, I crushed the last one 5 months ago.
Not that I'm worried about anything frying my brain, (there's not much up there to fry) it's more so the annoying texts I would get like, 'what time are you coming back', and ' could you pick up milk and eggs on your way back' or, 'Mum's coming around tonight, please try and be nice to her, she's seen something on the TV and it's upset her'. And that's without the very few mates I actually have texting some rubbish like, 'hope you're ok mate, you couldn't just give me hand with this next time you're available' Though I don't mind helping mates out!

Or it would ring cuz i'd never texted back and then asked to pick up those things. Could be most irritating especially when building a well in 2 ft of water in the ground and it's raining.


I'm thinking of getting a CB.

 

[littlespark]

Mental health.

A couple of days ago, a neighbour of my parents, father of my wife’s oldest school friend and the fittest 75 year old I know apparently took his own life… Leaving a wife, 2 daughters and 4 grandchildren.

He had depression for the majority of his adult life, and I’m sure there were past incidents that we don’t know about. He disappeared one time just before our wedding, and we thought we would lose a bridesmaid.

A few weeks ago he participated in a sponsored cycle race for Doddy Weirs MND charity…
He ran, hiked, cycled, swam….

I say “apparently” as we don’t know what has happened yet, but it seems his demons have finally caught up with him.

RIP Mick.

 

[DPG]

Mental health.

A couple of days ago, a neighbour of my parents, father of my wife’s oldest school friend and the fittest 75 year old I know apparently took his own life… Leaving a wife, 2 daughters and 4 grandchildren.

He had depression for the majority of his adult life, and I’m sure there were past incidents that we don’t know about. He disappeared one time just before our wedding, and we thought we would lose a bridesmaid.

A few weeks ago he participated in a sponsored cycle race for Doddy Weirs MND charity…
He ran, hiked, cycled, swam….

I say “apparently” as we don’t know what has happened yet, but it seems his demons have finally caught up with him.

RIP Mick.

Very sad case. And very easy for this sort of thing to go under the radar. RIP

 

[telectrix]

I'm 75, retired now except for a few small jobs here and there. get bored easily sitting about the house, and so have decided not to give up beer and smokes, steak and chips. . depression. what's that?

 

[pirate]

Tel, that's a good attitude...and you are lucky to be able to make those choices.
sadly, some have demons and follow them...involuntarily.
Let all of us who can tame those demons be thankful.
On a slight slant, my friend's father lost his wife through natural causes a year ago. She had made him give up smoking and drinking 10 years ago...now, at 89, he has taken up both again...why not?

 

[mattg4321]

My great grandfather started smoking at the age of 10. Cigars/pipes mostly. Lasted until he was 98, smoking all that time.

Took no nonsense that generation though. Born late 19th century. Expect 2 world wars will often do that to you. I sometimes wonder if he was as tough on the inside as on the outside. I’m sure his life was many times harder than mine?

 

[LukeD]

We all suffer from stress... But some peoples levels are frightening and must be horrible. Its down to insecurity of our future and finances in most cases.Many young people have been brain washed into this whole"Flexing" mentality of wanting everything and setting themselves up to have almost zero left at the end of a paypacket .Housing rent/mortgages etc . We are seeing a huge rise in people " 2 months out" which means they cannot make a payment after 2 months if they lose their income etc . Its not worth it . I know too many that died young or lost the lot ...All down to thinking they could live a life they really could not fund . My advice to anyone leaving school soon. Get yourself trained to work in the "mental health " business .Its going to be a huge business

 

[westward10]

Can we keep this in line with the thread topic.

 

[ipf]

Can we keep this in line with the thread topic.

So it's a childish whack round the ear hole, as in my apprenticeship days.... it must have caused mental health at work problems.....phew!
Look at all these footballers with the heading decease.

 

[UNG]

Can we keep this in line with the thread topic.

Not much point in posting anymore now while your editing of this thread has made no consideration to the mental health of those whose posts have been deleted

 

[timhoward]

@UNG I appreciate the thought but can equally see that would have been a moderators nightmare. All ok!

 

[pirate]

I can see that going off-topic might be a nuisance, but on the other hand, if it allows folks to express their concerns then it is valuable. OK, no place for such discussions as this thread has had if we are talking about the best JB to use in a wet environment or somesuch, but when people are openly expressing views which generate feedback it seems a bit restrictive to stifle them. I know a bit about mental health problems, and I know how valuable discussion is...maybe we wandered a bit, but no-one complained, right?
some folks got some views out there...that's my point. Frankly, I would have preferred it if the discussion continued and those who didn't like it could leave.
However...as the thread is still open, and we have to concentrate on the subject matter, let's agree to shift all our concerns about the other matters to another thread where anything goes.
My sister just arrived. She lost her son some years ago...he hanged himself in the garden. I saw, felt and still see and feel that anguish. 29 is no age to die from the demons in your head. back on track in this thread, and I hope we will have many more contributions.

 

[LewisM]

To the OP you should seek professional help even if talking doesn't help there is medication that can help, as for the cycle you talk about its your brain essentially fighting itself, you feel in danger so you have to check and the more you check the more your forcing yourself to find something that isn't there that's why you get more blurry and unsure as the adrenaline that your body is releasing is making you check and check again until you satisfy yourself and calm down. There's medication that works that stops your brain running away from itself.

Sounds like you're suffering from OCD/anxiety which are commonly linked best way it was described to me is anxiety is natural to ever one it essentially keeps you away from danger the problem is, is that it's like a jug the more it gets filled with different things, work, relationships, money etc the jug can overflow and that's when you feel out of control

 

[UNG]

To the OP you should seek professional help even if talking doesn't help there is medication that can help,

Speaking from experience and that of others more often than not the professionals only add to the problem and don't help the situation
I was once told by a professional that I was never intending to commit suicide because I never wrote a note, since that time I know of quite a number of people who have committed suicide and none of them left a note

 

[Mike Johnson]

That's true the family we bought our current house from the farther hung himself in the barn and did not leave a note, it seems he convinced himself he was riddled with Cancer and wanted to save his family the long process of him dying, it turns out from the Postmortem that he did not have Cancer.

 

[LewisM]

Speaking from experience and that of others more often than not the professionals only add to the problem and don't help the situation
I was once told by a professional that I was never intending to commit suicide because I never wrote a note, since that time I know of quite a number of people who have committed suicide and none of them left a note

But if there is nobody they feel comfortable talking with like family/friends then things like this will only eat away at you in silence

My brother tried to commit suicide last year however they reckon it was more a cry for help and for years he'd been struggling in silence with many things as he didn't want to look weak or inconvenience anyone since opening up and getting care he's 100 times better

 

[swaRRR]

My great grandfather started smoking at the age of 10. Cigars/pipes mostly. Lasted until he was 98, smoking all that time.

Took no nonsense that generation though. Born late 19th century. Expect 2 world wars will often do that to you. I sometimes wonder if he was as tough on the inside as on the outside. I’m sure his life was many times harder than mine?

My mum started smoking at 15 and died of lung cancer at 51.

 

[LukeD]

Speaking from experience and that of others more often than not the professionals only add to the problem and don't help the situation
I was once told by a professional that I was never intending to commit suicide because I never wrote a note, since that time I know of quite a number of people who have committed suicide and none of them left a note

Same as a friend who hung himself at the start of covid.never left a will.... This caused a huge issue with the money the Government took from his estate .I believe it was 450k. But the really kicker was ...I spoke to his father as I was worried about him. The father said he believed his son could never kill himself. 4 months after the event it turned out the son had tried it twice before and both times the father was involved in stopping him. What can you do when not only does your friend not talk , but his father lives in denial and shame etc .

 

[pc1966]

My mum started smoking at 15 and died of lung cancer at 51.

Sadly the more likely outcome

 

[pc1966]

But if there is nobody they feel comfortable talking with like family/friends then things like this will only eat away at you in silence

My brother tried to commit suicide last year however they reckon it was more a cry for help and for years he'd been struggling in silence with many things as he didn't want to look weak or inconvenience anyone since opening up and getting care he's 100 times better

I suspect in most cases it really is a cry for help as of the folks I known who have killed themselves, or tried and thankfully failed, none of their problems were that big to anyone outside of their own internal dialogue.

Assisted suicide for the terminally ill is a very different case, of course.