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To sum it up we all think it is bad practice but not directly against the regs.
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No I don't I think it's against the RegsTo sum it up we all think it is bad practice but not directly against the regs.
The joint box can effectively be considered as a socket on the ring. Only one unfused spur should be taken from a single point on a ring circuit as prescribed in appendix 15 the fact that’s it’s informative bears no weight on the argument as says that the design shown fulfils the requirements of 433.1
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Appendix 15 is informative, and it says if you follow this appendix, you will meet the requirements of 433.1. However, it is NOT prescriptive, there may be other means of meeting 433.1 that are not covered by this diagram.
You don't have to "ram" 4 connections into each terminal, nowadays many (most?) of us are using maintenance-free connectors (Wago, etc.) that have 4 or 5 terminals, and are rated to 32A or more.
It says “this appendix sets out options for the design for ring final circuits in household and similar premises in accordance with regulation 433.1.”There is none, and what has been done is fine, if slightly unorthodox. Lots on here quoting appendix 15 as having some god like status, but it's only a guide, hence uses terms such as 'this can generally be achieved by' I.e. follow this and you don't have to think, all will be well. Think outside the box and all will still be well, provided you've thought, not guessed! In this case the op might have guessed but got away with it!
I’m not just trying to be argumentative I genuinely believe that it isn’t allowed.Appendix 15 is informative, and it says if you follow this appendix, you will meet the requirements of 433.1. However, it is NOT prescriptive, there may be other means of meeting 433.1 that are not covered by this diagram.
You don't have to "ram" 4 connections into each terminal, nowadays many (most?) of us are using maintenance-free connectors (Wago, etc.) that have 4 or 5 terminals, and are rated to 32A or more.
Ok, but where in 433.1 does it preclude taking two spurs from a single point on a ring final circuit?
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