2382-12 17th c and g is difficult?? Help please

[NEBITOMI]

HELLO everyone!
Im new here!
My name is Tamas ( 33 )!
!i have 10 years experience in electrician expert in my country !
I decided that ,will to enrol for electrician 2382-12 17th curse!CURSE WILL START FROM 3 09 2012 !
But litle bit afraid form it because my english language not well , specialy in electrician expert!
I bought a BS7671 book alredy and try to read that !i can understand lots of things just when i try test my self ,is it difficult for me to find answer, in open book !
Exam will be difficult for me, or impossible to pass exam ???

Please write to me regardly what is your opinion OR idea!!
i WILL WRITE ALWAY EVERYDAY WHAT GOING ON AND WHAT HAPENING WITH ME UNTIL EXAM!!!

THANK YOU
REGARDS

 

[NEBITOMI]

hello everyone
so,i learning this book !i started 2382 curse with bad!notanother english boy!only just 2 people in the curse bit stranger,but not bad
this is the first impression!i do same test by 30 question and usuali 16 is right 14 is mistake!this is still poor\!!!yes?

 

[Sparky Ninja]

Yep that is poor.

Are you learning the regulations, or trying to remember the entire book?

 

[NEBITOMI]

Yep that is poor.

Are you learning the regulations, or trying to remember the entire book?

both!!

 

[Sparky Ninja]

both!!

Then you're doing too much

 

[NEBITOMI]

but what can i do?

 

[Sparky Ninja]

What assistance is your training provider giving you?

 

[NEBITOMI]

what do you mean?

 

[Sparky Ninja]

Are you doing a course?

 

[NEBITOMI]

Are you doing a course?

yes i doing !!evening 2 day a week 3 hour per day

 

[Sparky Ninja]

Well they should be giving you aids to assist your learning? You appear to be full of doubt - have you approached them for some further help?

 

[Taylortwocities]

but what can i do?

2382 is an 'open book' exam

This means that you get a copy of BS7671 to take with you into the exam. All of the answers to the questions are in the BS7671 book.

So you need to learn the STRUCTURE of the book, what sections relate to waht part of electrical work and how to find them in the CONTENTS and the INDEX.

So, if you got a question like:"What is the minimum cross-sectional area of a buried copper earth conductor that is protected against corrosion by a sheath but is not protected against mechanical damage."
Underneath the question you'll be given 4 possible answers, only one is correct.
Lets say the 4 possible answers are
a. 2.5mm
b. 10mm
c. 16mm
d. 25mm

You would go to the INDEX (at the back of the bokk). Look for EARTHING CONDUCTORS, SELECTION
and the index gives you the section that you need: 542.3
When you turn to that section you'll see the answer is given in Table 54.1
The correct answer is 16mm²
So you select answer c and then go to the next question.

It is not so that you KNOW the answer; the exam is to find out is you know WHERE TO FIND THE ANSWER.

You should know about all of this from your course.

Go and buy this book.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/IET-Wiring-...2320/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347208755&sr=8-1

 

[NEBITOMI]

2382 is an 'open book' exam

This means that you get a copy of BS7671 to take with you into the exam. All of the answers to the questions are in the BS7671 book.

So you need to learn the STRUCTURE of the book, what sections relate to waht part of electrical work and how to find them in the CONTENTS and the INDEX.

So, if you got a question like:"What is the minimum cross-sectional area of a buried copper earth conductor that is protected against corrosion by a sheath but is not protected against mechanical damage."
Underneath the question you'll be given 4 possible answers, only one is correct.
Lets say the 4 possible answers are
a. 2.5mm
b. 10mm
c. 16mm
d. 25mm

You would go to the INDEX (at the back of the bokk). Look for EARTHING CONDUCTORS, SELECTION
and the index gives you the section that you need: 542.3
When you turn to that section you'll see the answer is given in Table 54.1
The correct answer is 16mm²
So you select answer c and then go to the next question.

It is not so that you KNOW the answer; the exam is to find out is you know WHERE TO FIND THE ANSWER.

You should know about all of this from your course.

Go and buy this book.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/IET-Wiring-...2320/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347208755&sr=8-1

aredy got it an use it!but thanks

 

[rudeboy500]

did you pass

 

[NEBITOMI]

hello
not yet
exam will be on 24/09 monday eveving!!!
i hope will get pleasure gift for my birthday whis is on 20/09
so everyone support me if can on 24 monday from 6pm!
regards

 

[ruston]

hell



not yet
exam will be on 24/09 monday eveving!!!
i hope will get pleasure gift for my birthday whis is on 20/09
so everyone support me if can on 24 monday from 6pm!
regards

Good luck mate.:yes:


PS - Do the questions you know the answers to first . This gives you an idea of how much time you have to answer the rest.

 

[rudeboy500]

I'm also going to start my 17th edition 2382-12 next week its a bumer because i bought the Red version 2 year's ago together with OSG also red when i was learning the 2330 level 2 and 3, now i have to invest in the Green Regulations Book
Thanks
Rudeboy500

 

[NEBITOMI]

2.5 hours and take exam!!!!oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[trev]

As long as you can read, which you've already demonstrated, you'll be fine. If I could teach our dog to read I reckon I could get him through the exam. Chill mate, it's in the bag

 

[NEBITOMI]

HELLO everyone

PASS!!!!!!!!!!!

8 QUESTIONS WAS WRONG
IM WERY HAPPY
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYONE WHU WROTE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REAGARDS

 

[shagbite]

congratulations tamas. i have to say, your posts do make me smile. i like your interpretation of our language and, whilst you say your english is not so good, it's a damn site better than my hungarian. well done mate.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Well done!!

 

[NEBITOMI]

Thank you so much to everyone!!!!!!!!!!
next one what would like to do 2392 inspection and testing !i would like to buy a book and read and learn before i go to the curse!
just i dont know what book is need to buy?!i can see on ebay yelow book thats used and accept it for 2392 curse?
please explain to me how is the 2392 curse !and what is the 2391??? what is the diferences??suggestion which one to do my self???

 

[trev]

Get Guidance Note 3 mate, well done

 

[Taylortwocities]

please explain to me how is the 2392 curse !and what is the 2391??? what is the diferences??

Information on the different courses and their content is given on the City & Guilds website

They have been changing the 2391 course and, I believe, it is now closed in its present form.
The existing suite of 2391 qualifications is planned to be replaced by the following qualifications:

• 2394 Level 3 Initial Verification of Electrical Installations
• 2395 Level 3 Periodic Inspection, Testing and Reporting of Electrical Installations
• 2396 Level 4 Design of Electrical Installations

See Electrical Qualifications - City and Guilds 2391 Inspection and Test Level 3 for a sort of explaination.

2392 is explained here Electrical Qualifications - City and Guilds 2392 Level 2 Inspection and Test

My reading of this is that you would best do 2392 first as an introduction and then move on to the 2394/5/6 courses depending on what you want to do.

Hope this helps.


PS It isn't curse, the proper word is course!
Best wishes

TTC

 

[NEBITOMI]

(course )i learned ! OK!
thank you so much very kind of you !you helped me to choice!!!
regards

 

[rudeboy500]

well done mate!!! I happy for you

 

[moospark]

Yeah well done mate, Youre gettin' a bit of a celeb on here! Re. Taylors last, I got 2392 before the firm went down, thought I should now go to 2395? I'm sure one of the new ones is mainly building regs? Simply about where best to stick me money.
Cheers

 

[NEBITOMI]

I can see that,so wery difficult to find proper electrician job.i trydid looking for a job on internet ,but are not too many job available!why ?i would avoid the job agancy because i need permanent job!or i dont have another choice?? any sudgest offer or recomended what must to do for it?
Regards