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andyh

Hi All,

Looking for some advice and information from anyone who has experienced this issue or knows any additional information that may help.

I have a UPS which serves a PC so when the power fails the device keeps the PC running. This UPS also monitors the supply voltage and sounds an alarm if it steps outside certain tolerances. The alarm kept going off on a regular basis but I initially assumes it was faulty. The unit was indicating a peak voltage to the property of 267V!

Eventually I contacted our DNO, EON to try and get some additional tests done. They duly sent an engineer who's initial readings confirmed the voltage was on the high side reading 253V when he measured it at the meter. EON sent us a voltage analyser which was plugged into the mains for a week and then returned for analysis. We subsequently received a phone call from EON stating they had concerns about the voltage and would be taking various actions to resolve the issue.

The results from the analysis showed a voltage range to our property of 211 - 261V with an average over the period of 254V. This, as many of you will be aware, is outside the tolerance that EON accept which is 217 - 253V.

So far they have lowered the voltage at the main substation and had a look at our transformer. Our supply is fed underground from a transformer connected to overhead lines some way from the property. We are the only property served by this transformer. Unfortunately this transformer does not have any lower tappings and therefore cannot be adjusted.

The next process is for an EON engineer to come out to us again in the next couple of days and measure the voltage at the meter using more sophisticated equipment. Again they will be doing this over the period of one week. If the voltage is still outside tolerances they will look to replace the transformer.

Has anyone heard of this degree of voltage difference before? I am concerned that the high voltage has also caused damage over the years to various equipment we have. We have experienced an unusual number of appliance failures and AC adaptor failures. Any advice on any comeback we might have against EON? I am in the process of a new build house on the site and would like to have as stable a voltage as possible. I have been trying to ascertain if it's possible to fit a voltage stabiliser/conditioner to a domestic dwelling. Has anyone any experience of these? Is it worth doing and can anyone recommend any suppliers?

Finally if your voltage varies by a large amount does this affect the amount of electricity you use over a period of time?

Many thanks for your time and any advice appreciated.
 
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i assume the dno tolerance is 10% 207-253

not sure how significant the wide range is?

the average seems excessively high anyhow


try to get it sorted through dno before rushing in with those voltage conditioners anyhow
 
i assume the dno tolerance is 10% 207-253

not sure how significant the wide range is?

the average seems excessively high anyhow


try to get it sorted through dno before rushing in with those voltage conditioners anyhow

Yes it should be 10% but the manager told us they work to 217 - 253V. He may have got the lower voltage wrong. The average is excessively high which is what worries me with various equipment.
 
It's not 10%. It's +10% -6% so 216.2V to 253V. Don't think the +/- 10% was ever implemented.
 
This is where BS50160 comes into play-although the DNO's have tolerances, this BS also stipulates how many times the tolerances can be exceeded and it's quite lenient!

https://www.electriciansforums.net/attachments/en50160-pdf.120162/

Interesting information. From some background reading it suggests that a stable voltage reduces electricity bills and stops wear and tear on components compared with large voltage changes. If this is true then perhaps it is worth looking into a voltage conditioner. However, as I mentioned previously, I haven't been able to find any such devices which are suitable for domestic premises.
 

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There are a few devices available for domestic use but other than extended lamp life etc, the savings are minimal-heaters etc work for longer to raise the temperature so the savings are negated.

I was amused to see an expensive model installed on DIY SOS the other night, the payback's probably about 30 years!
 
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I went to a V-Phase session recently and the highest voltage they recorded was 273 volts in Cornwall. I guess the V-Phase would struggle to step that down to 220v for any length of time.
 

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