APPRENTICES

[Pete999]

Not a dig at anyone, more of a genuine enquiry, before anyone gets it into their heads that I'm having a dig, It's not my intension, OK.

During my time the Forum, I have become more confused between "A Trainee Electrician and an Apprentice Electrician" what is the difference between the two?

Many time I have seen, as an example a 25+ year old looking for an Apprenticeship, apart from the low pay to start with, how do these Apprenticeships work? how long are they Apprenticed for? do firms still get help from HMG for employing an Apprentice of any age?

Like I stressed at the start, this is a genuine question, all very different from when many of us "Oldies" started out.
Grateful for any replies.

Hope this is in the right area for my question.

 

[gazdkw82]

I was put on an apprenticeship framework through my works. I already had level 2 so I did 18 months of the level 3 framework and the AM2s.

Even though I was on the apprenticeship framework and most of the students on my course where apprentices, I was not classed as one.

There is an agreement of pay between the colleges and employer to pay apprentices. Not sure on the exact workings, but I'm sure the employer pays the college and the college pay a set rate to the apprentice.

I was directly.employed by my employer and placed on a framework. I think I would class myself at that time, as a trainee. Not an apprentice.

 

[Pete999]

I was put on an apprenticeship framework through my works. I already had level 2 so I did 18 months of the level 3 framework and the AM2s.

Even though I was on the apprenticeship framework and most of the students on my course where apprentices, I was not classed as one.

There is an agreement of pay between the colleges and employer to pay apprentices. Not sure on the exact workings, but I'm sure the employer pays the college and the college pay a set rate to the apprentice.

I was directly.employed by my employer and placed on a framework. I think I would class myself at that time, as a trainee. Not an apprentice.

Thanks for info Gaz

 

[Zerax]

My "let loose" was a bit tongue in cheek, what I meant was when will the two types of learners be deemed competent enough to allow them to work alone, for themselves etc, because that seems to be the aim of many a person undertaking work either as a Trainee or an Apprentice.

I think you're trying to find an answer that doesn't exist. Firstly, everyone is different... and I know that in the modern world we're all supposed to be homogenous... but we all know we're not.

So you could get two people with identical quals & experience, but one you trust to get on with stuff and the other not.

Secondly, who is it that is 'deeming' anyone to be 'competent' ? Is it the colleges who pass or fail candidates ? Is it merely a time-based issue ? Is it you ? I dunno...

 

[Pete999]

I think you're trying to find an answer that doesn't exist. Firstly, everyone is different... and I know that in the modern world we're all supposed to be homogenous... but we all know we're not.

So you could get two people with identical quals & experience, but one you trust to get on with stuff and the other not.

Secondly, who is it that is 'deeming' anyone to be 'competent' ? Is it the colleges who pass or fail candidates ? Is it merely a time-based issue ? Is it you ? I dunno...

No, neither do I.