Electrical installation certificat

[Tuttle]

Part P is actually a non statutory

Approved Document

Not sure that's quite right.

I think that Part P is one of the parts of the Building Regs, which are statutory, and Approved Document P gives guidance on how the requirements of Part P can be met.

That's how I understand it anyway.

 

[D Skelton]

Not sure that's quite right.

I think that Part P is one of the parts of the Building Regs, which are statutory, and Approved Document P gives guidance on how the requirements of Part P can be met.

That's how I understand it anyway.

Part P is a non statutory approved document that gives guidance on how you can meet the statutory requirements of the building regulations regarding electrical safety.

It's the OSG of the building regs (electrically speaking anyway)

 

[Tuttle]

It's Part P of Schedule 1 of the Building Regulations 2010: https://www.electriciansforums.net/attachments/uksi_20102214_en-pdf.120355/ (page 29)

Your right, Approved Document P is just for Guidance, but the Building Regulations, including Part P, are statutory.

 

[Tuttle]

I wouldn't attempt an EICR until I had a reasonable amount of experience with domestic installations, including installations to previous versions of the regs, and had the relevant qualification, i.e. 2391 or whatever the replacement for this qualification is.

 

[D Skelton]

It's Part P of Schedule 1 of the Building Regulations 2010: https://www.electriciansforums.net/attachments/uksi_20102214_en-pdf.120356/ (page 29)

Your right, Approved Document P is just for Guidance, but the Building Regulations, including Part P, are statutory.

No, Part P is non statutory. I wouldn't go as far to say it is merely guidance, but it isn't statutory.

 

[Tuttle]

Did you look at the link in my previous post? It says "STATUTORY INSTRUMENTS" at the top of the document. Lets not fall out over though (sorry I sidelined the thread a bit).

 

[D Skelton]

I have no intention of falling out with you pal, you are entitled to your opinion but this is taken from the first paragraph of Approved Document P:

Approved Documents are intended to provide
guidance for some of the more common building

situations. However, there may well be alternative
ways of achieving compliance with the
requirements.
Thus there is no obligation to

adopt any particular solution contained in an
Approved Document if you prefer to meet the
relevant requirement in some other way.

No obligation means no statutory requirement to follow Part P so long as you are able to comply with the wider scope of the building regulations.

 

[Tuttle]

Ok, I think that we are basically saying the same thing, except you see "Part P" as the approved document and I see "Part P" as part of the Building Regulations Document.

Also from Approved Document P: "This Approved Document took effect on 6 April 2006. It deals with the requirements of Part P of Schedule 1 to the Building Regulations 2010".

Therefore Approved Document P is not actually Part P itself, Part P is contained in Schedule 1 of the Building Regulations.

A small point I know, but a source of confusion :juggle:

 

[Baker1988]

Part p is statutory you have to abide by it in domestic property its the law

 

[Baker1988]

Approved documents are not statutory they are just guidance but part p is part p if the building regulations and the building regulations are statutory at least that's what we get told at college and the last test I did asked for 2 statutory regs and I put electricity at work act and part p of the building regs and it got marked as correct

 

[markythesparky]

He still hasn't answered the three phase question!

 

[D Skelton]

He still hasn't answered the three phase question!

Lol, coz he's not a spark and he doesn't have a clue!