here is one for you to argue about

[DurhamSparky]

Currently Undertaking a rewire of a empty property

PME
No Gas
Water inlet is plastic and water distribution around house is plastic "but the stop tap is metal"

i have no intention of dragging any bonding cables to the main water incomer!!

please please please argue with me some one!!

lol

 

[alarm man]

ive read somewhere that if all plastic no bonding required as theres nowt to bond too

 

[Silly Sausage]

Currently Undertaking a rewire of a empty property

PME
No Gas
Water inlet is plastic and water distribution around house is plastic "but the stop tap is metal"

i have no intention of dragging any bonding cables to the main water incomer!!

please please please argue with me some one!!

lol

For God's sake, be professional man and bond that tap!

















I've seen it done in a newly refurbed house last year.

 

[Bobster]

Get a plastic tap lol :45:

 

[DurhamSparky]

i know that you know that but i want some body to argue why i should install a 5 inch bit of pipe to bond lol..!!

 

[needasparks]

Currently Undertaking a rewire of a empty property

PME
No Gas
Water inlet is plastic and water distribution around house is plastic "but the stop tap is metal"

i have no intention of dragging any bonding cables to the main water incomer!!

please please please argue with me some one!!

lol

Sometimes you can be a tease

 

[DurhamSparky]

sometimes...!! ??? lol

 

[GT1]

What, you not going to bond between the kitchen sink, the window frame and the metal dog bowl...!!!!!
shocking.

 

[Silly Sausage]

sometimes...!! ??? lol

Were you a script writer for Monty P?
Argument Clinic - YouTube

 

[Adam W]

The pipes may not be conductive but unless it's extremely pure the water in the pipes will be conductive, so that might need bonding.

 

[telectrix]

how do you bond water??? stick a bonded probe through the plastic pipe???

 

[DurhamSparky]

attach a bit of 10mm to a fish and connect to MET

 

[Adam W]

You could do, or you could just bond the boiler, or each tap. You'll need to bond every tap though, because they won't all be linked when the tap is off.
Or you could install a bit of metal pipe to bond to.

 

[DurhamSparky]

now we just been daft!!!

oh i was hoping some body would argue against me not bonding....

guess i will have to just bond the TV aerial as it says must be electrically earthed..!

 

[cbw]

Last one like this I ran bond to boiler as all pipes here are copper.

I can only see this was a box ticking exercise but done none the less.

If you cant do it properly would you like me to come up there and show you how its done?

 

[DurhamSparky]

i was waiting for you you Mr Brown...!!

unfortunatly there is no boiler...!! it will be fitted out with electric water heaters and crap like that.... lol

if you wish to take a steady drive to the land of the gods i will open you with welcome arms and a sharpened knife..!! oops lol

 

[cbw]

Hahahaha, immune to stab wounds....far too many in the back

 

[DurhamSparky]

hahaha!! oh stabbing in the back is spineless...!!

 

[cbw]

So, what about exporting PME,

I have been asked by some chap called Ivor Biggun to fit 3 phase electric fences to kill foxes.

Can I export my PME to the chicken coup or do I need to TT it?

 

[DurhamSparky]

hahahaha...

 

[cbw]

Thought it was you or RWJ

 

[DurhamSparky]

hahaahahaha!! thats class...

ivorbiggun@mybellsmassive.... lol

 

[Knobhead]

Water isn’t very conductive, otherwise I’d have been blown up many years ago. 2.6MW being feed through water-cooled cables and coils worked fine for me.

But as it’s domestic you should really run a 10mm to the tap ! ! ! !

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[coxy84]

Iv got some spare plastic earth clamps if you want to send me £20 there yours!

 

[Spudnik]

I would run the cable anyways, especially if the floor is gonna be up.

Plus, it should still be bonded if the install is all copper, even if the incommer is plastic.

Come on Steve, this is day one stuff they would have taught you on your fast track

 

[Andy 7671]

How secure is the reservoir...?

A terrorist could dump aluminium sulphate in reservoir, making its way into households, this, coupled with the latest solar flare could cause the plastic to crack et voici your extraneous part is realized.


Or...

Maybe the new people moving in breed electric eels, a few might escape from the bath overflow, start their own colony and ...bingo

Or...

Maybe a rogue driller of thermal heating boreholes is operating in an area of granite, the radon seeps into your water via a leak.....







I think I need some friends of my own.

 

[1shortcircuit]

Have you performed an Insulation Resistance test in the metal tap to make sure it is not an extraneous conductive part?

lol

 

[baldelectrician]

Easy

Bond it with plastic cable (no need for copper inside), looks great and it's cheaper

 

[telectrix]

or run in a length of earth sleeving and tie both ends. fill sleeving with water so it's conductive.

 

[Mr.Si]

Or, just bond it with Grip Fill.

Sorry, it's a bit of a late response, but hey.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

The pipes may not be conductive but unless it's extremely pure the water in the pipes will be conductive, so that might need bonding.

Its obvious what needs doing then.........stick an earth rod through the pipe to bond the water...simples:tt1:

 

[needasparks]

I thought the thread title was obvious but perhaps it should have said MANTRAP.
I see the post and just treated it like a pothole and stepped right over knowing Durhamsparky (Bully)had caused a pileup behind me :30:

 

[D Skelton]

Regulation 2043.8.1 BS 7671 21st edition states quite clearly "Every material in the installation must be bonded, including appliances, equipment, fixtures, fittings, furniture, carpets and walls"

If I have to bond my sofa, you have to bond the tap! thems the rules!

 

[Geordie Spark]

You could do, or you could just bond the boiler, or each tap. You'll need to bond every tap though, because they won't all be linked when the tap is off.
Or you could install a bit of metal pipe to bond to.

The mind boggles !! :stuart:

 

[Adam W]

Under part P you don't need to do any bonding because everything has to be RCD protected unless it's inconvenient.

 

[Big n Daft]

Under part P you don't need to do any bonding because everything has to be RCD protected unless it's inconvenient.

Which one? the bonding or the RCD:devilish:

 

[Adam W]

Which one? the bonding or the RCD:devilish:

You don't need an RCD if it's inconvenient like if it might keep tripping.
You don't need to bond anything any more because of part P, but you need an NICEIC certificate otherwise it's illegal.

 

[bugsy]

Rubber gloves and rubber mat in location ( thats what we suggested for female client for her mains vibro in the bathroom )

 

[Guest111]

I,ve just attached the wife to our metal bed with 10mm g/y, oops sorry wrong forum thats bondage not bonding lol

 

[Knobhead]

You could always go for earth free bonding

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[Guest111]

You could always go for earth free bonding

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Ah Tony that explains why you were out of breath when I rang you the other week,and you said you were watching something on tv,I suppose she was sat on it(the tv that is) love it Tony you seem to have something for any occasion.lol