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Simple survey on whether you are going to vote in the upcoming general election.
 
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Midwest

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I've not much of a political analyst, nor sure of the exact differences of all the political parties, but I think its important to use your vote. Indeed, if more people bothered to vote for the Referendum, we might be in a different position now.

My two sons rarely vote, but because of the log jam of Brexit, they will this time. They both intend to vote Tories, not necessarily because they support them, but because they are fed up with this current impasse.

It will be interesting to see the turn out for this election, compared to others.
 

snowhead

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So in a snap poll of many people across all walks of life in vary locations in the U.K, the overwhelming result by 4 to 1 is that,, 80% are going to vote.
Translating that into votes at the poles means there will be an outcome to the Election.
 

telectrix

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So in a snap poll of many people across all walks of life in vary locations in the U.K, the overwhelming result by 4 to 1 is that,, 80% are going to vote.
Translating that into votes at the poles means there will be an outcome to the Election.
might all depend on which way the poles vote. eu or brexit? where's swd WHEN YOUWANTHIM?
 

Baddegg

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I have some polish neighbours, lovely people, who now have British passports and they voted leave......
 

rapparee

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not surprised.someof them still remember Sept. 1st., 1939.
The Western Betrayal ?
 

FatAlan

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I suspect the Brexit log jam won’t be solved but I have absolutely no understanding why anyone would be voting for the lying, deceiving self-interested shysters who call themselves the Tory party. They don’t care about the working man and are just playing us all for fools. PS I’m no Labour supporter ... which is the normal assumption.
 

Baddegg

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I suspect the Brexit log jam won’t be solved but I have absolutely no understanding why anyone would be voting for the lying, deceiving self-interested shysters who call themselves the Tory party. They don’t care about the working man and are just playing us all for fools. PS I’m no Labour supporter ... which is the normal assumption.
Therein lies the problem....I doubt many people believe boris but the alternative is Corbyn and Abbott....
 
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Therein lies the problem....I doubt many people believe boris but the alternative is Corbyn and Abbott....
This is my issue are people voting for the best of the bad if that makes sense. Why bother if no one inspires confidence.
 

Baddegg

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This is my issue are people voting for the best of the bad if that makes sense. Why bother if no one inspires confidence.
corbyn and abbot mean boris doesn’t have to try to hard.....and irony is if the tables were reversed it would still be the same!
 

FatAlan

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I also suspect that if Corbyn changed the colour of his tie and called himself a Tory he’d get the support of the blue rinse brigade and vice versa.
 

baldelectrician

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I am a bit of an anorak in politics

I was at Question Time leaders debate in Sheffield last night

View: https://www.------------/theSNP/videos/2519315238287251/
 
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I think the problem with nearly all political figures is that they are educated way beyond the level of their own intelligence, a reason why I have not voted for many years nor read or watch the press.
 

ferg

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Where I live a vote for anything other than Lib Dem or SNP is a wasted vote.

LibDem want to ignore the Referendum. I didn't agree with the outcome but strongly believe we should follow the result. So that's a no from me.

SNP I would have more time for if they weren't banging on about another referendum just because they didn't like the result of the last one. I also strongly dislike their practice of blaming all the worlds ills on the evils of Westminster. Another no from me.

Labour and Conservatives have more chance of working together for the benefit of the country than winning the seat where I live.
 

Baddegg

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Where I live a vote for anything other than Lib Dem or SNP is a wasted vote.

LibDem want to ignore the Referendum. I didn't agree with the outcome but strongly believe we should follow the result. So that's a no from me.

SNP I would have more time for if they weren't banging on about another referendum just because they didn't like the result of the last one. I also strongly dislike their practice of blaming all the worlds ills on the evils of Westminster. Another no from me.

Labour and Conservatives have more chance of working together for the benefit of the country than winning the seat where I live.
Much like us with conservatives and labour down here mate....personally I’d hate to see the SNP succeed in independence 😁
 

baldelectrician

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Where I live a vote for anything other than Lib Dem or SNP is a wasted vote.

LibDem want to ignore the Referendum. I didn't agree with the outcome but strongly believe we should follow the result. So that's a no from me.

SNP I would have more time for if they weren't banging on about another referendum just because they didn't like the result of the last one. I also strongly dislike their practice of blaming all the worlds ills on the evils of Westminster. Another no from me.

Labour and Conservatives have more chance of working together for the benefit of the country than winning the seat where I live.
People seem surprised the SNP talk about independence- it is controversial but bears also poop in the woods

The fct is that the Scottish electorate were told that the only way to keep Scotland in the EU was to vote NO to independence
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stuarth

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People seem surprised the SNP talk about independence- it is controversial but bears also poop in the woods

The fct is that the Scottish electorate were told that the only way to keep Scotland in the EU was to vote NO to independence
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I have a problem understanding the stance of the SNP in wanting to stay in the EU while at the same time demanding independence from a very close and friendly UK. In leaving the UK you would probably make trading across the boarder complicated? with a country that speaks the same language, has very very similar culture (after all we have been living and working together for centuries) you have a devolved government that would probably be able to get more control of the policy's that matter more to Scotland by remaining in the UK than you would ever get from the EU. The EU has stated very clearly that national sovereignty is not wanted and should be given up by the member countries of the EU to form a superstate to take on the rest of the world, so why give up a centuries old alliance where you have a good chance to get your point of view listened to, for a closed shop, protectionist, none democratic institution that is dedicated to removing national identities & the sovereignty's of member nations, perhaps I am missing something or just to dumb to understand.
 

Midwest

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Bit like having another Brexit referendum, I too can't understand why they should be another Independence vote?

You had a vote, and the result was to stay. So just keep having referendums, till you get the result you want. So if the next one is to leave, what about those that what to stay; could they push for another one, making it the best of three. Or should we have a Northern Scotland like NI.
 

littlespark

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The fct is that the Scottish electorate were told that the only way to keep Scotland in the EU was to vote NO to independence
We were also told the last independence referendum was “once in a lifetime” chance. Last time I looked, I wasn’t dead yet.

4 miles from England, we are much better off as part of the union than separate.
I also think we were better off as part of the EU, but the EU itself needed stripped back to being just the old common market.

I think now the present MP’s are having a laugh at us. Delays after delays. They’ll be getting expenses for all the extra time they’re in there.
 

rapparee

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Midwest

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The once in a generation quote in more detail, its amazing that only the first part is quoted
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1073359279883735040
Don't know whats being said here, but almost like we'll keep voting till we get what we want?
 

baldelectrician

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Don't know whats being said here, but almost like we'll keep voting till we get what we want?
Nearly
We live in a parliamentary democracy where the parties lay their plans in manifestos and people vote on that

The point is that the SNP have had a 2nd indy ref in more than one manifiesto they won.
The current election will have another mandate - presuming they get over 50% of the MP's
in Scotland
 

Midwest

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So if there’s another referendum, and the result is for independence but before it can be instigated, there’s a new manifesto which goes to another referendum which results in a vote to stay.

Where do you stop? Surly this matter has been voted on, and should be left for some time for people to reflect.
 

baldelectrician

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So if there’s another referendum, and the result is for independence but before it can be instigated, there’s a new manifesto which goes to another referendum which results in a vote to stay.

Where do you stop? Surly this matter has been voted on, and should be left for some time for people to reflect.
The answer to how many of anything is 'as many a the Scottish Parlaiment vote for'

As I said in my comment ' Is the UK like the Hotel California- you can check out any time you want but can never leave'

The main point is 'the vow' was a lie and broken, tie that to the 'vote NO to independence to stay in the EU' and you have a reason to re-run it

The indy vote was lost by just over 300,000 votes
We have 180,000 EU nationals in Scotland - they almost ALL voted NO to indy, most of them will switch from no to yes

Over 75's voted by a margin of 70% NO, these people are 'moving on'

Gordon Brown, Cameron, Clegg, Milliband promised 'as close to federalism as possible' followed by the Conservatives and Labour colludung to stop powers coming to Scotland in the Smith Commission.

In the end the Scottish Parliament did not get employment law or wages, benefits (or much else)
 
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