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[telectrix]

Hello, fellow sparkies. I’m a fully qualified electrician having done a 5 week course , got my Part P and everything. Got my NICEIC domestic installer inspection in 2 weeks. Going to rewire my parents house for the inspector to see. It’s a prefab, all concrete, built about 1950 and is wired in that awful round copper covered cable that fits into the boxes with brass nuts. It’s all 2 core cable, so there’s no earth. I’m going to do it all in stickyback plastic trunking, should only take me about a week. The niceic want a small job as well, so I plan to fit a circuit for washing machine and tumble dryer in the only place in my small flat where they will fit. The bathroom. As the floor is tiled, I can’t get to the socket cables, so I plan to come from the bathroom light in the attic, down the corner of the bathroom in trunking, under the bath, and fit a double socket under the bath where the taps are. I’ve looked up in the regulations, and that’s OK because you need a screwdriver to get the panel off. Also it makes the plumbing easy, straight from the tap pipes. And, because there’s no earth on the lighting, I can fix a wire from the earth of the socket to the cold water pipe. One thing I could not understand from the course is why I need to use thick cable on showers and cookers. Is it something to do with the bigger cable allowing the amps to flow faster, like bigger water pipes allow faster water flowing?

 

[Clive P]

Hi,

I think they call it armoured so if there's a war it keeps on working.

Regards.

 

[PEM]

Far too much effort for a registration scheme! Just run an extension lead from anywhere into the bathroom don't worry about trip hazards cos that's not electrical!

Yes small cables for showers get hot but then that's free heating so environmentally friendly. If your worried just wire 2 extension cables side by side into the one plug. Job done.

Testing you'll be fine just copy the ones out of your text books but remember to change the address.

Obviously with your skills base now you should be going into design saves getting hands dirty. Or if your good kitchen fitting but I've heard that's difficult and takes years of training.

Nice one Telectrix!!!

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I've done a similar course Telectrix and feel that we could have a lot in common. The reason that you use a bigger cable for showers is because it has a larger current carrying capacity as opposed to raisins. Also I notice you mentioned you didn't have an earth, I have plenty of spare topsoil in my garden, that should help. Look forward to more of these discussions with you... :yes:

 

[PEM]

On my course I was told you don't need an earth as long as there are wooden floors or the occupants always wear slippers.

Anyway you don't need an earth until there's a fault and on the course you've been on you'll be that good you'll never make mistakes.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Hello, fellow sparkies. I’m a fully qualified electrician having done a 5 week course , got my Part P and everything. Got my NICEIC domestic installer inspection in 2 weeks. Going to rewire my parents house for the inspector to see. It’s a prefab, all concrete, built about 1950 and is wired in that awful round copper covered cable that fits into the boxes with brass nuts. It’s all 2 core cable, so there’s no earth. I’m going to do it all in stickyback plastic trunking, should only take me about a week. The niceic want a small job as well, so I plan to fit a circuit for washing machine and tumble dryer in the only place in my small flat where they will fit. The bathroom. As the floor is tiled, I can’t get to the socket cables, so I plan to come from the bathroom light in the attic, down the corner of the bathroom in trunking, under the bath, and fit a double socket under the bath where the taps are. I’ve looked up in the regulations, and that’s OK because you need a screwdriver to get the panel off. Also it makes the plumbing easy, straight from the tap pipes. And, because there’s no earth on the lighting, I can fix a wire from the earth of the socket to the cold water pipe. One thing I could not understand from the course is why I need to use thick cable on showers and cookers. Is it something to do with the bigger cable allowing the amps to flow faster, like bigger water pipes allow faster water flowing?

hi Tel....welcome to the forum.
yep...you`v got it all covered here as far as the scams....sorry your chosen scheme is concerned....you must be really looking forward to finally getting that part P qualification....
then you will really feal like an electrician.....and dont worry about what you hear in here...

 

[ian.settle1]

what is bonding? is it like bondage? done a bit of that, but not on the course.

It's where you sod the job and go for a few beers with your new work mates

 

[ackbarthestar]

Hello, fellow sparkies. I’m a fully qualified electrician having done a 5 week course , got my Part P and everything. Got my NICEIC domestic installer inspection in 2 weeks. Going to rewire my parents house for the inspector to see. It’s a prefab, all concrete, built about 1950 and is wired in that awful round copper covered cable that fits into the boxes with brass nuts. It’s all 2 core cable, so there’s no earth. I’m going to do it all in stickyback plastic trunking, should only take me about a week. The niceic want a small job as well, so I plan to fit a circuit for washing machine and tumble dryer in the only place in my small flat where they will fit. The bathroom. As the floor is tiled, I can’t get to the socket cables, so I plan to come from the bathroom light in the attic, down the corner of the bathroom in trunking, under the bath, and fit a double socket under the bath where the taps are. I’ve looked up in the regulations, and that’s OK because you need a screwdriver to get the panel off. Also it makes the plumbing easy, straight from the tap pipes. And, because there’s no earth on the lighting, I can fix a wire from the earth of the socket to the cold water pipe. One thing I could not understand from the course is why I need to use thick cable on showers and cookers. Is it something to do with the bigger cable allowing the amps to flow faster, like bigger water pipes allow faster water flowing?

I read this interest..... and then lost it again. You obviously have nothing better to do this afternoon..........

So, If you've got problems with your 5 day course then i suggest you pay out and do a refresher......

 

[spark 68]

Ha ha Tel,

Maybe you should have paid for the 7 week course, instead of penny pinching and only doing the 5 week one:53: :ciappa:

 

[Dave 85]

You guys really ought to get out more

 

[ackbarthestar]

You guys really ought to get out more

Better in than out, otherwise I'll stand staring at pylons.....

 

[Thefailsafe2012]

Better in than out, otherwise I'll stand staring at pylons.....

I enjoy pylons

 

[Mr Mark Sparks]

I enjoy pylons

I don't I hate using the suppository up the bum

or am I confused

 

[Thefailsafe2012]

I don't I hate using the suppository up the bum

or am I confused

Ooh err :ciappa:

 

[ackbarthestar]

I don't I hate using the suppository up the bum

or am I confused

It depends where your standing. I think you'd prefer the pylons in rather than out

 

[SirKit Breaker]

Yes but if you have a fault and it keeps tripping the rcd then you must replace it with a standard main switch, thats where the bonding comes in, god how many times!

Thats not a good idea, its a lot easier to put some wires from the top to the bottom, and if you are careful you dont even need to turn it off you need to use long pliers with plastic handles and wear rubber gloves as well, but only if you use thin wires, thick ones are a bit more harder to bend.

 

[PEM]

Telectrix why are those cables different colours anyway? Can't you just put a sticker up and then use them any old how? After alli saw a bit of brown stuff of a blue cable in a light circuit. Thought how messy is that!!! So removed it.

I'm now training to become a gynocologist in my spare time as well "such fun".

 

[GLENNSPARK]

on your balls

just make sure the tester is set approprately....
1000V DC sounds about right...