NAPIT Certification Scheme Napit Ist Assessment

[Ajf100q]

Hi, does anyone have any ideas of work I could do I my own home for a 1st assessment. Struggling to think of anything that need doing. Something that you've already used for your own assessment.

Thanks.

 

[Midwest]

What does Napit exactly ask for, should be your first question. You could go do some work in a family members property, if your own Consumer Unit doesn't require replacement.

 

[ackbarthestar]

Outside lighting supply, install and test, garage supply with CCU, House CCU, rewire, bathroom circuits upgrade.
I suspect that circuit design (access and use of manuals, data, regs), install, I&T, and form filling are likely to be the main criteria.

 

[Ajf100q]

What does Napit exactly ask for, should be your first question. You could go do some work in a family members property, if your own Consumer Unit doesn't require replacement.

Thanks. They ask for 2 new circuits. Just need to find something suitable.

 

[Wilko]

Garage Makeover Project is be my suggestion.
Distribution circuit in SWA, CU refresh and 2 new socket circuits.

 

[Ajf100q]

Garage Makeover Project is be my suggestion.
Distribution circuit in SWA, CU refresh and 2 new socket circuits.

I like this idea. Would you do the sockets as a ring circuit?

 

[Wilko]

Would you do the sockets as a ring circuit?

If you do an RFC you might only need one new circuit ...

 

[Ajf100q]

If you do an RFC you might only need one new circuit ...

Good idea , thanks. Think I will go along these lines and do it in pvc conduit.

 

[Taylortwocities]

I like this idea. Would you do the sockets as a ring circuit?

You, as the designer of the new installation, are the person who makes this decision based on the customer's reqirements.
Hint1 if all that will be plugged in is a lawn mower or a couple of electric drills then A 16 or 20A radial will be all that is needed.
Hint2 a ring final opens up a lot more detailed testing issues that the NAPIT inspector can use to stretch your capabilities in his assessment. Radials is easier.

 

[westward10]

Use steel saddles for the pvc conduit to prevent premature collapse in the event of a fire.

 

[Wilko]

Use steel saddles for the pvc conduit to prevent premature collapse in the event of a fire.

Perhaps I’m being harsh, but I think Inspector Gadget would just love to pick up on this and give a ‘non conformance’ to remedy.

 

[King84]

If you do a consumer Unit change, do you still need to install another circuit to meet 2 circuit requirements for Napit assessment or CU change itself is enough to meet the requirement?

 

[ackbarthestar]

If you do a consumer Unit change, do you still need to install another circuit to meet 2 circuit requirements for Napit assessment or CU change itself is enough to meet the requirement?

IMO, if you do a DB change you have theoretically changed the method of protection for all the circuits, therefore will now require retesting to complete a EIC...
Technically/theoretically you will have installed as many circuits as you have tested. I suggest you only show circuits you have installed and tested yourself. Others will have different views about this no doubt.

 

[Dartlec]

I have a feeling that in the NICEIC stuff they send somewhere now it says that the inspected job can't be at the person's house. Maybe they were getting people changing their CU every year just for inspection? I know I used that one year because there were no suitable local jobs that I could arrange access to.

Changed it the day before assessment too!

 

[SG_Electrical]

Apologies for the thread Hi-jack, but I also have my first assessment coming up soon. I have all the paperwork in place apart from the waste management policy. I'm a bit stumped on this one as I've never had to do this before. Is the assessor likely to insist on me having this in place? If so does anyone have any advice on how to compose one and what it needs to include please? Thanks in advance

 

[Dartlec]

Apologies for the thread Hi-jack, but I also have my first assessment coming up soon. I have all the paperwork in place apart from the waste management policy. I'm a bit stumped on this one as I've never had to do this before. Is the assessor likely to insist on me having this in place? If so does anyone have any advice on how to compose one and what it needs to include please? Thanks in advance

That's a new one on me. Is it Napit?

If it's anything like the other policies, then it will be a tick box at worst and they often provide a pdf template if you ask.

I assume it will be something along the lines of you will dispose of waste correctly, not flytip, recycle where required, etc etc.

This link might give you what you need, it mentions waste disposal practices, though it's dated 2006.

 

[SJD]

I recall having a discussion about this with my assessor (not NAPIT) a few years back, and the answer was "leave all waste with the customer".

 

[SG_Electrical]

Thanks guys. Yes it's NAPIT. I'm probably over thinking it to be honest but as it's my first assessment I wanted to have everything in place if possible.

 

[Dartlec]

I recall having a discussion about this with my assessor (not NAPIT) a few years back, and the answer was "leave all waste with the customer".

Seems the best idea to me! I did register for a free waste carrier license last year, though still not 100% clear on whether that covers me for anything - so safer to ask the clients to dispose of it.

 

[Midwest]

I was registered with a waste licence, if you carry any waste in your vehicle, you need one. However, the lower tier one only allows you to carry waste generated by yourself. Such as new cable off cuts. If you remove existing cable, and carry that in your van, that license wouldn’t cover you. There was a story in the media some time ago, where a guy had a bag in his van (he’d didn’t have a license) to put all his sandwich wrappers etc in. He got stopped, and given a fpn for that.

Lower tier licence

 

[Zerax]

There was a story in the media some time ago, where a guy had a bag in his van (he’d didn’t have a license) to put all his sandwich wrappers etc in. He got stopped, and given a fpn for that.

So am I doing the right thing by throwing all my mcdonalds sandwich wrappers in the passenger footwell ?

 

[Dartlec]

I was registered with a waste licence, if you carry any waste in your vehicle, you need one. However, the lower tier one only allows you to carry waste generated by yourself. Such as new cable off cuts. If you remove existing cable, and carry that in your van, that license wouldn’t cover you. There was a story in the media some time ago, where a guy had a bag in his van (he’d didn’t have a license) to put all his sandwich wrappers etc in. He got stopped, and given a fpn for that.

Lower tier licence

I saw the same story I think which is what prompted me to get the free license - though clearly the story you mention was either more involved, or an over zealot official looking for a reason to issue a FPN.

But the site you linked is charging a fee like the scams they warn about. You can do it directly on gov.uk and it's free for lower tier (no renewal) or £154 for upper tier (3 years license) , rather than £42 or £293 on that site.

Only thing I try to take away from clients usually is old consumer units where I want to keep some of the parts as backups - in which case I don't consider it waste anyway, but stock.

 

[Midwest]

So am I doing the right thing by throwing all my mcdonalds sandwich wrappers in the passenger footwell ?

Wouldn’t chance myself

I think it was a poor choice of crisps myself, made them fine him.

 

[Sparkingmad]

I asked the environment agency direct for clarification on this last year after I paid for the full waste license. A very nice lady phoned me back and talked me through it. Any waste produced in relation to you carrying out your job as part of an install is permitted under the free waste carrier license but if you taking away waste caused by others or are being paid to remove waste then it’s the higher tier. They even refunded my higher tier payment. The biggest issue is how you dispose of the waste you take away which will involve some costs to you so you will have to pass this on to the customer. Then it can get messy as you are charging to take it away. I just had my 1st assessment today for NAPIT after being with Stroma for 4 years and he never asked me for a waste policy.

 

[Dartlec]

I asked the environment agency direct for clarification on this last year after I paid for the full waste license. A very nice lady phoned me back and talked me through it. Any waste produced in relation to you carrying out your job as part of an install is permitted under the free waste carrier license but if you taking away waste caused by others or are being paid to remove waste then it’s the higher tier. They even refunded my higher tier payment. The biggest issue is how you dispose of the waste you take away which will involve some costs to you so you will have to pass this on to the customer. Then it can get messy as you are charging to take it away. I just had my 1st assessment today for NAPIT after being with Stroma for 4 years and he never asked me for a waste policy.

That's useful to know. The wording on 'construction waste' was not very clear when I looked it up and seemed to be specifically excluded from some of the free requirements.