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2 weeks ago ,I basically replaced a previous external standard light that was outside the house near the door with a 50w PIR floodlight. I kept the same cable that was connected to a switch inside . I attached the new floodlight using wago connections with new and old cable. Put it nicely in a junction box.

It is rated IP66. Also its under a canopy so hardly got any water etc on it.

It was working absolutely fine. However now it's coming on dim as shown In the attachment.

What could be the issue ? Did it need a fuse switch? Etc.

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Looks like the fitting has gone bad. Possibly a busted led.
 
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Looks like the fitting has gone bad. Possibly a busted led.

Would it have needed a fuse switch to reduce the current coming in ?
 
They also run the leds at a higher current to make them brighter with less leds.
That causes premature failure in some of the fittings.
 
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They also run the leds at a higher current to make them brighter with less leds.
That causes premature failure in some of the fittings.
More with less 😁

The modern way
 
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If only 2 weeks old, get it replaced under the warranty no argument as faulty unit!
 
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Hi guys

2 weeks ago ,I basically replaced a previous external standard light that was outside the house near the door with a 50w PIR floodlight. I kept the same cable that was connected to a switch inside . I attached the new floodlight using wago connections with new and old cable. Put it nicely in a junction box.

It is rated IP66. Also its under a canopy so hardly got any water etc on it.

It was working absolutely fine. However now it's coming on dim as shown In the attachment.

What could be the issue ? Did it need a fuse switch? Etc.

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What make did you fit? I had lots of issues with Timeguard
 
Why did I just get a notification of a new post to this thread? I can't see one, but while I'm here, I've just found that one of my own three year old but hardly used floodlights has failed. Only a 20W one, but will still need time and effort to replace it.
 
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Why did I just get a notification of a new post to this thread? I can't see one, but while I'm here, I've just found that one of my own three year old but hardly used floodlights has failed. Only a 20W one, but will still need time and effort to replace it.
Hi,
Yes I got that as well, what make is yours, I have had so many issues with LED floodlights failing, mine are timegaurd
 

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Haven't had a chance to look yet. What I do know is that it's the second one since 2015, when it was first installed.
It's only ever used by holiday guests when they let their dogs out for a few minutes late at night, although most never find the switch.
It's unlikely that the total burn time for both is more than 50 hours.
 
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Haven't had a chance to look yet. What I do know is that it's the second one since 2015, when it was first installed.
It's only ever used by holiday guests when they let their dogs out for a few minutes late at night, although most never find the switch.
It's unlikely that the total burn time for both is more than 50 hours.
I fitted 8 x 6 foot led battens in a work shop bought from toolstation [integral] I used them because they were brighter than your average batten .3 of them have failed in the last 3 weeks .the 3 that have failed are the ones that are used most.they were like disco lights after 5 minutes of being switched on .contacted integral and they said there was an issue with Philips driver ,they now use tridonic .fair play they sent out 8 new fittings within days .the explanation I got was the driver heated up after longterm use.what I can't understand is the fitting is rated at 65 watts but still, the new driver is rated at 60 watts .I think they are designed for short term use like loft lights or even a kitchen light but certainly not comercial. I will no longer use them .
 
Finally got around to taking the dud floodlight down, took a short cut back through another of my gardens, and noticed that the floodlight there was identical. Switched it on, and guess what - that had failed as well, so, having the ladder and tools with me, I removed that one as well. Just a few hours burn time between them.
Turns out that they are 50W, not 20W as I thought, and made by Ledvance, which until recently was part of Osram, so not some unheard of cheap make.
Is there any reliable 50W LED out there?
 
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The ledvance brand was bought by a chinese outfit I believe. My brothers blew within a year.
At least one of the leds destroyed itself.
 
The address on the back of the lamps is Augsburg in Germany (where I was attacked by a flying porker a few years ago), but almost certainly Chinese made, like everything else.
 
Finally got around to taking the dud floodlight down, took a short cut back through another of my gardens, and noticed that the floodlight there was identical. Switched it on, and guess what - that had failed as well, so, having the ladder and tools with me, I removed that one as well. Just a few hours burn time between them.
Turns out that they are 50W, not 20W as I thought, and made by Ledvance, which until recently was part of Osram, so not some unheard of cheap make.
Is there any reliable 50W LED out there?
No prob not there all made in same place then assembled in some low cost country in eu.when I used to fit solar panels the panel was made in China but assembled in hungry so they could stamp eu on it.when I say assembled all they did was put the steel frame round it
 

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