replacing a cooker switch socket

[Dan71]

Hi, I don't use my cooker point I have a gas cooker, can I replace this cooer swich-sock with a double 13a socket my system is RCD controlled Ciruits your help is appreciated.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Yes you can replace the coker with a sock plate which brand will you be useing pringle socks are ok ,it will slip over nicely, there might be a sock plate behind the gas cooker you could fit a sock their has well .

 

[littlespark]

Yes you can replace the coker with a sock plate which brand will you be useing pringle socks are ok ,it will slip over nicely, there might be a sock plate behind the gas cooker you could fit a sock their has well .

Good morning, Buzz. Sounds like you had a rough night.


OP: Yes, its ok to replace the cooker switch with a double socket. Following safe isolation procedures.

 

[Octopus]

Good luck getting 2 x 6mm cables into a 2G socket...

 

[buzzlightyear]

It will be like trying to get a python in to a match box .

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Could safely disconnect the outgoing 6mm to the low level connection plate if not needed.

 

[buzzlightyear]

boy this post is getting a lot of answers are the mice coming out to play to day.

 

[Dan71]

Did I write that lol well It was early in the morning. Thank for your help

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[123]

Good luck getting 2 x 6mm cables into a 2G socket...

Not sure they need to have 2, but with Click Mode it's pretty straight forward.

 

[Dan71]

Can you lads help me out, I have two red wires, two black wires, and three green earth wires, I know red is live black is neutral, do I put the both reds in the live, and the two black together in neutral, thats how It was when came out, one earth in one end and two earth wires together in the other end I just want make sure.

 

[Dan71]

I don't think I can get two wires in one hole the wires seem to thick.

 

[DPG]

If one is the outgoing to the cooker outlet plate then you don't need to.

 

[Taylortwocities]

The cable at the top is probably the live feed in. So you don't need to use the bottom one.

BUT

You need to test it first to make sure.

 

[Octopus]

If one is the outgoing to the cooker outlet plate then you don't need to.

He will if that's how his gas hob ignition is connected!

 

[westward10]

The lower cable probably, and I say probably goes to the cooker outlet plate which is not required. Connect the upper cable but make the other safe before reconnecting the power.

 

[DPG]

He will if that's how his gas hob ignition is connected!

He hasn't mentioned that has he? I maybe need to re-read the thread again.

 

[westward10]

He will if that's how his gas hob ignition is connected!

OP is there anything still connected from the low level cooker outlet plate.

 

[Dan71]

all my lights have gone off, I was arranging the when the light went off In have power on sockets but no lights.

 

[DPG]

RCD has tripped, probably when neutral/earth were shorted together when you were arranging the wires.

 

[westward10]

The rcd by the cooker breaker needs turning back on I suspect the black touched earth not an uncommon occurrence.

 

[westward10]

Snap

 

[DefyG]

Perfectly acceptable to do providing RCD protection in place (which I can see it is from photo previously posted and presumably works as it has already tripped!), previous CCU not directly behind the cooker/hob etc.

I got called out to a rental a while back where the agents 'handyman' had been called to replace a double that had on switch jam off. When the socket was removed he told the tenant that he couldn't replace it as it was dangerous to use because it had been wired in 'cooker cable'!
(Exactly as you are doing now).
It was perfectly safe to replace and use but had a hard job convincing the tenant and agent who seemed to want to believe their 'trusted' un-qualified handyman!

 

[Dan71]

It won't turn back on, i don't want to break it, I've lost power for the central heating and no power on sockets upstairs

 

[DPG]

OP, are any of the individual wires touching each other or the back box?

 

[Dan71]

No none of the wires are touching

 

[Taylortwocities]

Turn off all of the MCBs on that half of the CU. Then try and reset the RCD. If it will reset, then turn the MCBs on one at a time.

Make sure that the cooker wires are not touching anything.

 

[Deleted member 105166]

OP, hopefully you took a photo of how it was before you disconnected anything? If so, perhaps put it back as it was for tonight, now that it's dark. Always best to be doing this sort of work in daylight, particularly when you're new to it.

 

[Dan71]

When I press the reset button nothing happens that's on the same side as the cooker, lights -smoke alarm, central heating.

 

[DPG]

Ah - don't press the 'reset' button. Lift the toggle switch.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Flick the switch up, just make sure its the RCD and not also the MCB of the circuit you are working on.

Its not a reset button, its a test button

 

[Dan71]

I am going to put it back to how it was, I still have my telly to watch things could be allot worse, have a good and thanks for your help and time I'll let you know how I get on in the morning.

 

[DPG]

I am going to put it back to how it was, I still have my telly to watch things could be allot worse, have a good and thanks for your help and time I'll let you know how I get on in the morning.

You may as well lift the RCD up and get your lights back on. As Chris says though, DO NOT switch the MCB on for the cooker circuit - ensure the cooker switch is OFF.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

If it was me i would reset the RCD, leave it all as it is now, do not turn on the MCB and call a spark out, will cost you a call out fee but your in over your head. No offense meant.

 

[Dan71]

I am going to put it back to how it was, I still have my telly to watch things could be allot worse, have a good and thanks for your help and time, got the light back on happy days I think Ill get a Electrician Monday morning thanks to all.

 

[DPG]

I am going to put it back to how it was, I still have my telly to watch things could be allot worse, have a good and thanks for your help and time, got the light back on happy days I think Ill get a Electrician Monday morning thanks to all.

Let us know what they say and what they do. Some of us on here have shallow meaningless lives and appreciate the little things

 

[freddo]

If the rest of the house uses Tenby double sockets you could steal one of those as the terminals are big enough to take 2x 6mm wires if needed. I miss Tenby stuff. (Except the light switches with the terminal on the side.)

 

[Rpa07]

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