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Hello I am looking for some advice on becoming a electrician, I am planning to offer to work for someone every other Saturday for free so I can get the hands on experience I need . I am very confident with wiring as I have done quite a lot at home my self.

What I need to know is are the online courses any good as I can only learn of an evening or on every other Saturday.

I just need some good advice please
 
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You should sign up for a short course with any one of the many providers, they are very good value for money and in about 6 weeks or so you will be earning at least £50,000 a year, just like the rest of us. Welcome to the club.
 
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Thanks can you tell me where I Need to start and what is best the online or evening course
 
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firstly.... you wont find any body willing to take you on if you only want to learn on Saturdays!!

working weekends is banned unless some twit decided to pay my call out fee of £70

secondly....you will need to attend college at least 1 full day a week (during the week) to even get a look in to becoming a qualified electrician..

thirdly.... dont waste your money on a 5 week course.

and i made 50k last year!! however only 13k was actual money earnt!!!
 
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Johnn131

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Hello there. I can only work the saturday because I am full time work and looking for a new challenge.

Thanks for your advise . How long will a decent course take if I can only attend of maybe one evening a week.
 
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A course which an employer will take seriously will take 3 years. They're usually 2 nights a week rather than one, or one whole day a week.
I think you'll certainly have a challenge on your hands trying to find someone to take you on every other Saturday, even if it is for free. An employer will want someone who is prepared to take the job seriously and dedicate them self to it, not just turn up every other weekend. They'd probably rather work alone than work with a liability.
 
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There is no such thing as an online course to train as an electrician,you need to get to a college either 1 day a week or 2/3 evenings a week for 3 years,then after that there are add on courses such as inspection and testing and numerous courses on fire alarms,emergency lighting,solar and renewables,electricians are always upgrading and evolving with new technology,it requires a lot of dedication and lots of hours revising,exams etc,a 6 week course for someone with no technical knowledge is all well and good but the practical side of things obviously lets it down as there are only practise booths,the initial investment will be £1000s on courses.So if you fancy the challange good luck,graft and it will be worth it
 

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I can see 'confidence with wiring', from someone without experience or training,
creating quite a few shudders. Read #4 and heed DS. With your current employment, time is the issue (and cost of course).
So many seem to think that doing a course teaches a trade. Nothing could be further from the truth.
 
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i would say do yourself a favour and look at doing another trade for a challenge, i qualified 3 years ago gaining all the necessary qualifications to get the job i wanted to do and guess what?, i am now working part time in a well known d.i.y store i have tried applying for various companies without success, there are 100's of sparks newly qualified and time served on these web forum sites in the same boat as me and we took the right route into the industry by going to college for 3 years and attending the night school classes for the other qualifications and gaining as much knowledge as we could working with other sparks. i would suggest you speak to a career advisor at your local college the new electrical course starts in september called the 2357 its an electrical diploma course which has now replaced the 2330 but you will need to be in at least some sort of electrical employment not the occasional saturday in a month, do not get career advice from the companies doing the 5 week wonder courses as they will promise you the world just to get your money off you. hope this helps.
 

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No one will train the opposition to eventually take their work off them. You wont get free college courses or any other ones for that matter, so you wont get a sparky to take you on unless you can contribute something to his business . Your best bet is to find a college that does evening classes and take it from there. Then when you have something to offer a sparky you may stand a chance.
 
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Hi Johnn131
How old are you?
think about earning some money laboring in building trade.
Then while your earning go to night school/evening classes at college, over 3 years (goes quick)
Then try to make contacts while laboring, you'll be earning and learning at same time.
Dont try to do it too quickly, take your time, use the forums to learn as well (learnt more off this forum in a year than I did at 3 years of college) - although you need basics from college.
Then after 3 years at college your ready to start realising you actually know nothing and there begins a life of learning......wonderful
 
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Hello mate I'm 43 and in very good health , I don't mind doing anything that helps me get some sort of trade qualification on the way .I'm open to anything on my Saturday off
 

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Hello mate I'm 43 and in very good health , I don't mind doing anything that helps me get some sort of trade qualification on the way .I'm open to anything on my Saturday off
Sorry John, but if you've only got the odd saturday to spare, I think a football steward may be more profitable.
 
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Jonny66

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43 good age to start, college night classes are best imo. Theres no quick way in, you need to get in with someone not necessarily an electrician, as I said get in with builder or a refurb company as labor, turn your hand to anything to start with. I started as laborer / decorator, went to college in evening and then chuck myself in at deep end (with a little help).
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electrical installations can be a c*nt . so you need to take people with a pinch of salt and be on the ball and the whole lot can be achieved by working for somone else..

good luck whatever you decide and welcome to place where people know stuff about electrics and nothing else.. i=p/u doh'
 

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Hello mate I'm 43 and in very good health , I don't mind doing anything that helps me get some sort of trade qualification on the way .I'm open to anything on my Saturday off
Got to say you have the right attitude. Go along to your local "Tec" they will be able to advise you better as things are changing all the time as regards courses. Best of luck.
 
2 days a month will not get you anywhere. As others have already said, the vast majority of us underwent a 3 or 4 year apprenticeship for a very good reason. Also, there is a world of difference between playing with the electrics in your own home, and going out into the big wide world. I wish you all the best, but now is not a good time to try breaking into the electrical trade with nothing but good intentions and a spare 2 days a month.
 
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You'd have to be mad trying to get in the electrical game in this day and age.
I'd chose a career in I.T. all day long if retraining in my 40's.
 
You should sign up for a short course with any one of the many providers, they are very good value for money and in about 6 weeks or so you will be earning at least £50,000 a year, just like the rest of us. Welcome to the club.
Obviously this was a tongue in cheek response!

What is your current occupation? Why can it not carry you through till retirement? Are you looking for a new career or an interesting hobby? If the former, then unless you are very lucky, then sorry my friend, in the current climate, you are dreaming.

I started in the industry 7 years ago. I am fully qualified, night school trained and full time on the job and I (a) have a lot to learn, and (b) still struggle to find employment.

I have just got back onto site after a long slack period, and have pulled every string and used every contact to do so.

I have numerous verifiable testaments to my abilities in references. This helps, but not if no-one has any work to offer.

Why is your current occupation so unappetizing that it cannot see you through a few more years till retirement? Are you falling for the dream of millions of easy pounds in the trades?

It ain't gonna happen mate.

Look, what I'm basically saying that, if I, fully qualified, with loads of experience and great references, have struggled to eventually get onto an agency job, then you, Mr no skills, no quals, no experience, have got bob hope of doing it.

43 years old? Christ man, most people that age are thinking of getting OUT of it, not INTO it!

Get a grip on reality.

This is my honest opinion. You are free to disagree.

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Obviously this was a tongue in cheek response!

What is your current occupation? Why can it not carry you through till retirement? Are you looking for a new career or an interesting hobby? If the former, then unless you are very lucky, then sorry my friend, in the current climate, you are dreaming.

I started in the industry 7 years ago. I am fully qualified, night school trained and full time on the job and I (a) have a lot to learn, and (b) still struggle to find employment.

I have just got back onto site after a long slack period, and have pulled every string and used every contact to do so.

I have numerous verifiable testaments to my abilities in references. This helps, but not if no-one has any work to offer.

Why is your current occupation so unappetizing that it cannot see you through a few more years till retirement? Are you falling for the dream of millions of easy pounds in the trades?

It ain't gonna happen mate.

Look, what I'm basically saying that, if I, fully qualified, with loads of experience and great references, have struggled to eventually get onto an agency job, then you, Mr no skills, no quals, no experience, have got bob hope of doing it.

43 years old? Christ man, most people that age are thinking of getting OUT of it, not INTO it!

Get a grip on reality.

This is my honest opinion. You are free to disagree.

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Can't add any more to that.
Don't hold anything back will ya ;)
 
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alarm man

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Got to say you have the right attitude. Go along to your local "Tec" they will be able to advise you better as things are changing all the time as regards courses. Best of luck.
good attitude..you kidding me,a paper boy is more flexible than saturdays only...
 

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good attitude..you kidding me,a paper boy is more flexible than saturdays only...
Na meant his attitude to be prepared to do anything, as I said earlier he has no chance with his current plan.
He needs to get a lot more info before he does anything else.
 
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alarm man

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Na meant his attitude to be prepared to do anything, as I said earlier he has no chance with his current plan.
He needs to get a lot more info before he does anything else.
he's never going to be a spark,we all know that,its a career not a challenge
 
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alarm man

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but someone somewhere will still take his money for chasing a dream,if anyone does premier league footballer courses for fat 40 somethings and promises 200k a week,i'll pay what ever it takes..
 

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Thats it, the grass is always greener though till you get there. These training schemes that use sensationalism to sell their wares are just as bad as - have you been injured..............
 
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kenny james

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hopefully the op will not take everybody's points of view personally!, the sparks on this thread have painted the reality truth about our trade to hopefully let the op and others reading this thread realise being a spark is not how it seems on the adverts. there is many sparks on here from all walks of life the majority with many years experience who will beg to differ on many threads but with this one all of us sparks are all singing from the same hymn sheet.
 

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Sadly the industry is so much different now to when most of us started out. I did my apprenticeship in the late 90s and was lucky enough to get a steady job from it for a while. But now, I'm struggling and sparking has become very much my secondary occupation. I have been doing an unrelated job for several years now, and that was a necessity at the time to feed my family. Sparking is still my passion, but passion alone doesn't put bread on the table. Over the last year especially, I would have lost my house if I was relying on electrical work as my sole source of income.
 
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Johnn131

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Thanks for all your honesty
There was some good answers.
 
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kenny james

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Sadly the industry is so much different now to when most of us started out. I did my apprenticeship in the late 90s and was lucky enough to get a steady job from it for a while. But now, I'm struggling and sparking has become very much my secondary occupation. I have been doing an unrelated job for several years now, and that was a necessity at the time to feed my family. Sparking is still my passion, but passion alone doesn't put bread on the table. Over the last year especially, I would have lost my house if I was relying on electrical work as my sole source of income.
my passion too but like yourself i am now in a unrelated job working in a diy store part time wondering were did i go wrong in life!!!. i maybe working for minimum wages but its bringing steady money into the house to pay the mortgage and put food on the table.
 
Around this time last year I had to take a driving job to make ends meet. Sometimes you have no choice.
Keep plugging away Kenny things will change for you just like they did for me
 
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Antony Wells

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Heello peeps, was just reading through this thread. Im currently in the same situation. I ve done my 2392, i ve got 17th and PAT, and im a bit confussed as to where to go now. With my quals can i offer work as an electricans mate or is it best to go and find a company to work for !
 
Definitely better to go and find a position within a company, preferably a good sized one to get regular pay increases and job security, sort of anyway, you will start as a mate/apprentice/bod but as you already have some quallies it should help you get in the door for interviews as you have shown dedication to your chosen career to start with by going and getting them.
 
I was earning big money as an electrical engineer for many years, but the shifts were literally killing me.
I admit that I can't make a living just from electrical work at the moment as there are too many big players in my area, but by teaching classical guitar every evening, I just about get by...
I may be much poorer than I used to be, but I will never work nights again, and that's something you can take to the bank.
 

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