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Ziggy1979

Hi everyone

I'm not a spark so please be gentle! :)

We're building an extension and I was planning on doing the electrics. The bedrooms are just an extension of the existing ring mains (upstairs one and downstairs one) adding a few sockets in each room (no Spurs).

I've notified building control and they've told me Im ok to do the work but I have to pay an additional fee to a "company" that will check everything once I'm done. This we are doing.

My main questions are for the kitchen/utility room. I'd planned the following:

1. New RCD protected ring main in 2.5mm T&E on 32A MCB serving utility/kitchen. This would take washer, dryer, dishwasher, extractor hood and above worktop sockets.

2. New non RCD protected radial on 16A MCB (or 20A?) in 2.5mm T&E serving ONLY 2 x fridge freezers (180W and 300W).

3. New RCD protected radial in 6mm T&E on 40A MCB serving 10.8kW induction hob. Can or should I use a 45A DP cooker switch with this?

4. New RCD protected radial in 2.5mm T&E on 20A MCB serving 3.8kW single oven. This is the one I'm most unsure about. Originally I thought to use 6mm. My thinking is the following: The cable run is 6-8 metres max. It will go in conduit behind plaster on a block wall which derates 2.5mm to 23A. It then goes to a 20A DP switch and then to a single 13A socket or cooker connection unit (some of the ovens we've looked at need hardwiring others had a plug). Oven is 3800/230 = 16.5A.

Thank you all for your help and for all the previous posts that have helped me to no end!

Zigs
 
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Hi everyone[/COLOR][COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]We're building an extension and I was planning on doing the electrics. The bedrooms are just an extension of the existing ring mains (upstairs one and downstairs one) adding a few sockets in each room (no Spurs).[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]I've notified building control and they've told me Im ok to do the work but I have to pay an additional fee to a "company" that will check everything once I'm done. This we are doing.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]My main questions are for the kitchen/utility room. I'd planned the following:[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]1. New RCD protected ring main in 2.5mm T&E on 32A MCB serving utility/kitchen. This would take washer, dryer, dishwasher, extractor hood and above worktop sockets.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]2. New non RCD protected radial on 16A MCB (or 20A?) in 2.5mm T&E serving ONLY 2 x fridge freezers (180W and 300W).[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]3. New RCD protected radial in 6mm T&E on 40A MCB serving 10.8kW induction hob. Can or should I use a 45A DP cooker switch with this?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]4. New RCD protected radial in 2.5mm T&E on 20A MCB serving 3.8kW single oven. This is the one I'm most unsure about. Originally I thought to use 6mm. My thinking is the following: The cable run is 6-8 metres max. It will go in conduit behind plaster on a block wall which derates 2.5mm to 23A. It then goes to a 20A DP switch and then to a single 13A socket or cooker connection unit (some of the ovens we've looked at need hardwiring others had a plug). Oven is 3800/230 = 16.5A.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Thank you all for your help and for all the previous posts that have helped me to no end![/COLOR]
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[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961)]Zigs[/COLOR]

WOW looks good to me lol
 
3. a 45A switch will be fine. the 45A is just it's rated working load.

4. i'd use 6mm or 4mm in order to future proof in case you ever get a heavier load appliance. for the appliance you mention, a 20A MCB would suffice, or you could use a 32A


edit: for the fridge/freezers, in order to use a non RCD supply, the cable must not be buried in a wall < 50mm deep, unless enclosed in earthe steel conduit, and the sockets must be labelled as dedicated to the fridge/freezers.
 

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