working for lbc

[tuckermot]

Hi all

I am through to final interview stage for permanent employment with my local LBC working on domestic propertys as a electrical improver.Before my interview can any one tell me what the work is like ,what it involves ,will there be out of hours call out ,maintenance ect after i have found my feet !! This is direct employment and not subbie work any response would appreciated as i am not working in the electrical field at the moment as i am driving hgv,s would this be a good move and do they encourage training !! pay is low
though so hopeing chance of o/t or call outs

:crazy:


Richard

 

[oxocube]

An lbc I worked at the sparks were on over a £1000 for 9- 4 mon to thurs, fri they came in had a fry up and went on the p***. lol

 

[tuckermot]

no pressure then lol

 

[Engineer54]

An lbc I worked at the sparks were on over a £1000 for 9- 4 mon to thurs, fri they came in had a fry up and went on the p***. lol

12K a year then, ....I think i' be doing the same if that's all they were paying!! Then again, would I be able to afford to go on the the p**s every Friday?? lol!!!

 

[oxocube]

12K a year then, ....I think i' be doing the same if that's all they were paying!! Then again, would I be able to afford to go on the the p**s every Friday?? lol!!!

Maffs not your strong point then, theres a bit more than 12 weeks in a year.

 

[Engineer54]

Maffs not your strong point then, theres a bit more than 12 weeks in a year.

Where did it say ''WEEKLY'' in your post then??

So your expecting us to believe that these sparks were/are on 52K a year then, ...yeah right pull the other leg, it's got bells on it!!!

 

[londonlec]

I currently work for one. It involves everything, domestic, intakes, boiler rooms, em lighting, Ryefields, mains etc.

All aspects of installation and maintenance, call outs and over time when its required.

I do it for an agency, so you lose the benefits, but gain more dough ;-)

 

[oxocube]

Where did it say ''WEEKLY'' in your post then??

So your expecting us to believe that these sparks were/are on 52K a year then, ...yeah right pull the other leg, it's got bells on it!!!

lol, what do you think '£1000 for 9- 4 mon to thurs' means. And do you know anything about lbc rates? obviously not! Are you saying I'm lying?

 

[Engineer54]

I know that electricians working for local councils are NOT on 52K a year. Make of that what you wish!!

Perhaps we should ask truckermot what sort of ball park figure he has been offered as an improver electrician for a LBC. And yes i DO know a bit about LBC, i have family members working in one of them. They have never been known as high paying establishments, ....not until you reach the upper echelons, where you will find all the failures of the real worlds private companies hiding...

 

[tuckermot]

Hi folks

the pay scale is between 16,000-18,500 for a electrical improver

cheers

Richard

 

[Engineer54]

Hi folks

the pay scale is between 16,000-18,500 for a electrical improver

cheers

Richard

Thanks truckermot, ...i had a ball park figure in my mind of 18000 in your category as an improver electrician.
By the way, the LBC used to be not bad at encouraging training, and tended to pay for that training too. What it's like these days in this economic climate, i wouldn't like to make any guesses

 

[oxocube]

I know that electricians working for local councils are NOT on 52K a year. Make of that what you wish!!

Perhaps we should ask truckermot what sort of ball park figure he has been offered as an improver electrician for a LBC. And yes i DO know a bit about LBC, i have family members working in one of them. They have never been known as high paying establishments, ....not until you reach the upper echelons, where you will find all the failures of the real worlds private companies hiding...

Stop guessing! lol.

There are binmen earning over £40k a year in the uk.

But I will try and explain the pay scale even though you don't really deserve an explanation because you are so rude.

The lbc I worked at used a set of very bizarre nationally agreed local government rates. The sparks were on a very low basic rate (no idea what it was). But from memory they got paid something like 40p extra to replace a light switch, which is a ridiculously low amount of money. But then they claimed for testing and there was only one rate of about £30. The sparks were also supported by a communist councillor and thats why they were allowed to get away with their rip off and earn over £50K per year.

You obviously know very little about how lbc's work, but I can assure you all the bosses are terrified of councillors because they are like roman emperors, get a thumbs down and you've had it.

 

[tuckermot]

i will go along and see what they have to offer engineer. i have bills like every one else and at the end of the day my mortgage is my priority bud !! if successfull i would drop money but i am looking long term !!! with this one

 

[alarm man]

council sparks do not earn 52k a year,they will if they do a 5day course,thats true coz ive seen the adverts..

 

[rmc86uk]

Totally off topic but how many binmen do you know on 40k a year.

I know loads of lads on the bins and I know their hourly rate. It's easy what they do and the hours are good but they don't touch 40k.

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[alarm man]

Stop guessing! lol.

There are binmen earning over £40k a year in the uk.

But I will try and explain the pay scale even though you don't really deserve an explanation because you are so rude.

The lbc I worked at used a set of very bizarre nationally agreed local government rates. The sparks were on a very low basic rate (no idea what it was). But from memory they got paid something like 40p extra to replace a light switch, which is a ridiculously low amount of money. But then they claimed for testing and there was only one rate of about £30. The sparks were also supported by a communist councillor and thats why they were allowed to get away with their rip off and earn over £50K per year.

You obviously know very little about how lbc's work, but I can assure you all the bosses are terrified of councillors because they are like roman emperors, get a thumbs down and you've had it.

i know a dinner lady,she gets paid 10p for every yorkshire pudding she makes and £50 per yorky to make sure its crispy..

 

[oxocube]

Totally off topic but how many binmen do you know on 40k a year.

I know loads of lads on the bins and I know their hourly rate. It's easy what they do and the hours are good but they don't touch 40k.

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Well heres some - Birmingham binmen earn up to £45,000 a year with overtime deals - West Midlands News - News - Birmingham Post

 

[alarm man]

Well heres some - Birmingham binmen earn up to £45,000 a year with overtime deals - West Midlands News - News - Birmingham Post

wheres the 50k sparks then..i wait while you troll tinternet

 

[oxocube]

wheres the 50k sparks then..i wait while you troll tinternet

For obvious reasons I'm not saying where.

I've stated facts with explanations and couldn't care less about people who know nothing about how lbc's and councillors work. But are stupidly prepared to try and argue about something they nothing about.

Just keep paying your council tax. lol

Edit - heres a spark on a good council earner - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6982335.ece

 

[Engineer54]

Stop guessing! lol.

There are binmen earning over £40k a year in the uk.

But I will try and explain the pay scale even though you don't really deserve an explanation because you are so rude.

The lbc I worked at used a set of very bizarre nationally agreed local government rates. The sparks were on a very low basic rate (no idea what it was). But from memory they got paid something like 40p extra to replace a light switch, which is a ridiculously low amount of money. But then they claimed for testing and there was only one rate of about £30. The sparks were also supported by a communist councillor and thats why they were allowed to get away with their rip off and earn over £50K per year.

You obviously know very little about how lbc's work, but I can assure you all the bosses are terrified of councillors because they are like roman emperors, get a thumbs down and you've had it.

Bin men don't work for the councils anymore, they are employed by private companies!! But that's another subject...

I don't believe i've been rude at all, ...not unless you mean that i disagree with you that is!! I find it extremely hard to believe that council sparks were/are on 52K a year, in fact i just don't believe it. There would be intensive investigations/audits on that dept's annual salary bill, and looking to cut personnel, rates, allowances etc. There are very few Engineers (if any) on the council that are on that sort of money, unless they are one of the bosses...

Don't just assume i know absolutely nothing about local councils. As i told you earlier, i have family members working in a local council, one who has done so for many years. He now runs a section of building inspectors, and a civil Engineer by profession. I doubt very much if he is on 52K a year. But what he does get, or will at the end of this year, is a very good Pension, based on his final salary...

 

[alarm man]

For obvious reasons I'm not saying where.

I've stated facts with explanations and couldn't care less about people who know nothing about how lbc's and councillors work. But are stupidly prepared to try and argue about something they nothing about.

Just keep paying your council tax. lol

Edit - heres a spark on a good council earner - Birmingham city council electrician is paid £124,000 - Times Online

in laymans terms you cant..if i surf long enough im sure i'll find a spark who has landed on the moon,or a binman who puts ya bin back where he found it...

 

[londonlec]

Dont get me wrong theres money to be made if you put the hours in, you can have a ten hour day if you wish, and weekends at time and half and double hours.

But £50,000+ and i'd be surprised.

To the OP, yes take the job do what you can to get it. Its more of a career than most crap jobs out there at the moment.
You will get many benefits on top of that, probably a council van for personal use too.

 

[Knobhead]

We have a new member join us and what does he find?

He finds people willing to help and a totally noxious little troll running around out of control.

Welcome truckermot, please excuse the troll.

 

[mogga]

lol, what do you think '£1000 for 9- 4 mon to thurs' means. And do you know anything about lbc rates? obviously not! Are you saying I'm lying?

I WILL not say your Lying BUT last time I saw an L.A. offering work it was @ £9.35 ph for approved electrician on 12mth contract not the lifelong ones you use to get The multipliers for pay rates were not bad as was the oncall,call out money but the basic was PANTS directly employed use to be great TsnCs but thats all stopping as well
to make a grand a week with any of the L.As near me you would have to be doing the kitchens even then its gwent down recently

 

[Engineer54]

We have a new member join us and what does he find?

He finds people willing to help and a totally noxious little troll running around out of control.

Welcome truckermot, please excuse the troll.

Tony, .... Truckermot has been a member longer than both of us!!! lol!! He probably joined when first started training.

 

[mogga]

BTW I have worked for a local authority a couple of times books in and twice I entered the 405 tax bracket BUT that was due to doing gritting ,oncall once a fortnight and LOADS n LOADS of calls iv put details on previous posts As OXO says the methods of "bonus book" pay and those who know their way round the system it is possible to earn loads on paper but a grand a week would be investigated at the highest level and probably result in times being cut due to one or 2 knowing how to sharpen their pencils

 

[oxocube]

Since joining this forum I've learnt nobody is allowed to contradict engineer 54 (works in china that makes him important) and Tony (worked in heavy industry that makes him important) and they both deeply resent any new members views because they're post count gives them superiority.

And now I'm being called a troll, for stating some facts that the two of them can't understand and resent. All I've done is to post some facts based on actual experience and some links as evidence of my statements. I doubt if either of them have properly read what I have posted or read the links.

To both of them I would say don't be frightened theres room for everyone. So as I'm now being called a troll I won't contribute anymore to this thread but stand by every word I've posted - is that ok with you Tony? Do you approve my actions?

 

[Engineer54]

Since joining this forum I've learnt nobody is allowed to contradict engineer 54 (works in china that makes him important) and Tony (worked in heavy industry that makes him important) and they both deeply resent any new members views because they're post count gives them superiority.

And now I'm being called a troll, for stating some facts that the two of them can't understand and resent. All I've done is to post some facts based on actual experience and some links as evidence of my statements. I doubt if either of them have properly read what I have posted or read the links.

To both of them I would say don't be frightened theres room for everyone. So as I'm now being called a troll I won't contribute anymore to this thread but stand by every word I've posted - is that ok with you Tony? Do you approve my actions?

Do you have some sort of inferiority complex or something?? Are we the only two members that think your suggestion of council sparks are/were on salaries of 52K is a nonsense, .....NOPE quite a few have commented on this. Listen, ...if i think you, or anyone else come to that is posting misleading information, i will comment on that post statement. I'm as important as you or anybody else on this forum. Where the hell do you get this resentment crap from?? Geezus, get a life mate!!!

 

[oxocube]

Do you have some sort of inferiority complex or something?? Are we the only two members that think your suggestion of council sparks are/were on salaries of 52K is a nonsense, .....NOPE quite a few have commented on this. Listen, ...if i think you, or anyone else come to that is posting misleading information, i will comment on that post statement. I'm as important as you or anybody else on this forum. Where the hell do you get this resentment crap from?? Geezus, get a life mate!!!

Ok I will respond (against my better judgement), why would I post about £52K salaries if it was'nt true? have you looked at the links demonstrating ridiculous rates of pay?

Seems like your getting a little angry, thats a good method of getting people to agree with you but it also gives you a misleading sense of superiority, just because people say they agree doesn't mean they do, its because they feel intimidated.

And I think the inferiority problem is all on your side, and please don't call me mate, cos I'm not your mate.

Anyway, thats me out of here.

 

[cbw]

Handbags at dawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[alarm man]

Ok I will respond (against my better judgement), why would I post about £52K salaries if it was'nt true? have you looked at the links demonstrating ridiculous rates of pay?

Seems like your getting a little angry, thats a good method of getting people to agree with you but it also gives you a misleading sense of superiority, just because people say they agree doesn't mean they do, its because they feel intimidated.

And I think the inferiority problem is all on your side, and please don't call me mate, cos I'm not your mate.

Anyway, thats me out of here.

ffs here you can have it..

 

[oxocube]

ffs here you can have it..

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Strange how people get the wrong end of the stick.

I'm the one being attacked for making some reasonable statements and defending my position. I am the bone and the dogs are after me. lol

 

[ezzzekiel]

Although i agree there are some big egos rubbing shoulders on the forum i think you may be off the mark with the 52k mark, have just left one local authority and started with a new one. This will be the fourth (cards in) positon ive held and the highest basic salary to date with any comes in at 26k about half of your figure electrical manager,Qs and chargehands all on about the same

 

[Engineer54]

Ok I will respond (against my better judgement), why would I post about £52K salaries if it was'nt true? have you looked at the links demonstrating ridiculous rates of pay?

Seems like your getting a little angry, thats a good method of getting people to agree with you but it also gives you a misleading sense of superiority, just because people say they agree doesn't mean they do, its because they feel intimidated.

And I think the inferiority problem is all on your side, and please don't call me mate, cos I'm not your mate.

Anyway, thats me out of here.

Do you actually believe in what you have just posted?? Do you honestly believe that these members posted comments on the disbelief of the council sparks earning 52K pa because they were ''intimidated'' by me??

You don't have much of a respect for the members here if you think that they can be intimidated by me, or anyone else come to that, and then go on to post something that they don't agree with!!! I'm Sorry, but that's just insulting in my book. And NO, the inferiority problem is all yours and you have just proved that here, beyond a shadow of doubt!!
Where i do agree with you, is your statement about me calling you mate, but then it wasn't meant, in the way that you seem to have taken it!! I'm now wondering if you have any mates that dared to disagree with you??

This is just Sad, very Sad!!!

 

[ezzzekiel]

To answer original thread in general pretty good to work for.
Various roles from investment works void properties repairs and maintenance or as simple as lamping up in communal areas.
Your role will match your skillset with opportunies to move into other areas

 

[Engineer54]

Strange how people get the wrong end of the stick.

I'm the one being attacked for making some reasonable statements and defending my position. I am the bone and the dogs are after me. lol

Think you had better go back and read thru this thread again. You yourself have been doing a lot of the attacking, in fact it was your smart arse reply to my original post here, that started this off. That and the implying of the 52K pa council sparkies!! Go on, read some of your posts on this thread and then tell me again, that's it's me trying to be superior. .... Get some help ffs!!

 

[Geordie Spark]

council sparks do not earn 52k a year,they will if they do a 5day course,thats true coz ive seen the adverts..

I don't know what they earn in my area, but from what I've seen of their workmanship whatever it is they don't deserve it !!

 

[Geordie Spark]

Bin men don't work for the councils anymore, they are employed by private companies!! But that's another subject...

I don't believe i've been rude at all, ...not unless you mean that i disagree with you that is!! I find it extremely hard to believe that council sparks were/are on 52K a year, in fact i just don't believe it. There would be intensive investigations/audits on that dept's annual salary bill, and looking to cut personnel, rates, allowances etc. There are very few Engineers (if any) on the council that are on that sort of money, unless they are one of the bosses...

Don't just assume i know absolutely nothing about local councils. As i told you earlier, i have family members working in a local council, one who has done so for many years. He now runs a section of building inspectors, and a civil Engineer by profession. I doubt very much if he is on 52K a year. But what he does get, or will at the end of this year, is a very good Pension, based on his final salary...

For what it's worth I don't think you come across as rude at all.

From reading your posts, I consider you to be very experienced & knowledgeable but - like myself - don't suffer fools gladly.

 

[ezzzekiel]

I don't know what they earn in my area, but from what I've seen of their workmanship whatever it is they don't deserve it !!

Strange as most councils i have worked under are very strict on electrical installation work and ensure whatever work is carried out complies with bs7671 ( maybe its a newcastle thing but im opposite side of the water where standards are usually higher)

 

[tuckermot]

Hi all

I will post on wednesday how the interview went i think its a good move for me i will be dropping money but i am looking long term as lots of electrical firms have not got the time or money to invest in new staff and i believe working for a local lbc i have a better chance of more training in other fields and better future many thanks to all who responded to my question

Richard

 

[robsparky1975]

Good luck with your interview richard,this is how i started out with council works,money not good to start,but the experience you will gain will make up for it,it will be an eye opener,once again good luck

 

[tuckermot]

thanks robsparky

i will let you know how it goes bud

 

[Knobhead]

Obviously I didn’t recognise you as a long-standing member of the board.

I wish you all the luck in the world……….

Go for it Kid!

 

[tuckermot]

cheers tony

I will give it my best shot bud

 

[tuckermot]

Hi All

I had my interview with two nice guys i was asked health and safety questions and how to fault find ect i enquired about training and they said if i was successfull i would be going out with all the sparks to find what i need in lew of training they would then arrange a training program to suit my needs.there answer to training was if theres a electrical course and your willing to do it we will fund you !!!! just hope i have impressed them enough to beat the young uns lol seems a really good job maintenance/installs